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I put a no longer available RGM fork brace-robust bridgework on Peel, it got rid of the rubber bands connecting the grips to the axle [not that it could prevent fork twist on sideways wheelie lift off or hi side launches but it raised the fork resonane freq above tire harmonics freg. and human reaction-power input speed so became transparent and felt perfect one to one input to control effect, though the axle would vibrate so fast it could not be seen which I'd later ID as coming from the slight slack in the upper slider bushes, to be solved by Jims composite split inserts but was total non issue but can sense I'll eventually hit the same fork and tire howl-squelch freq match if i keep pressing further on slight slack bushes for about 1/8" motion at axle level] then later put on a bar i could rest my long legs out on, it revealed that any time I lean the bike or use the fork to lean the bike they expanded and stayed expanded taking up road lumps as usual but at a higher stance with lighter spring resistance. So I ask that others interested in understanding fork action try this experiment themselves and see if your head don't cock over like a confounded hound dog. Mine did, so I tried it on my SV650 both resting feet on the axle nuts and by putting L hand on slider/fender to find no matter how easy and no throttle I started a turn the forks always expanded. I had to use fairly significant trail lean braking at slow speeds 20-30 to keep forks from expanding but had to brake too hard to resist forks expanding at hi speed 90-100 on SuVee. Trail braking is absolutely taboo to me to ever use for real braking so this was just to explore fork behavior on initial lean in and absolutely has no use to me and is the absolute the worse state to put a motorcycle in, regardless of that most elite racers on most elite 'puterized bikes use it effectively because they are corner cripples can handle real powered turns, as if braking was faster that hi throttle, sheeze, if I'm in a hurray or scared on THE Gravel all braking is done full upright perfectly in line, so please don't pollute this thread with trail brake insanity much as it may help corner cripples I'm way beyond that stupid corner cripple stuff and if you are still using it to advatage I am so sorry and scared for you poor corner crippled floppy ear cycler's or the too buzz bombed ringing newbies they race now a days. Going real real fast means real real loose and nothing is a loose as fast on THE Gravel so absolutely no trail braking for me but when braking ain't really needed, such as the rates the corner cripples do.
Its full proof to me that the rear Rules The Roost for any effective turning, so please try this and see what it may imply for dampening designs and adjustments. Its very hard to see in elite video but it shows up if stop action the most sever turns you can find them corner cripple demoing. If ya got a capable handler what happens is right about the time the fork might chirp out the front its no longer in effective traction, so don't matter a whithworth about fork quality --- until the front lands again hehehe. Surely old news on the newest corner cripples discussing limits, hehehe.
Its full proof to me that the rear Rules The Roost for any effective turning, so please try this and see what it may imply for dampening designs and adjustments. Its very hard to see in elite video but it shows up if stop action the most sever turns you can find them corner cripple demoing. If ya got a capable handler what happens is right about the time the fork might chirp out the front its no longer in effective traction, so don't matter a whithworth about fork quality --- until the front lands again hehehe. Surely old news on the newest corner cripples discussing limits, hehehe.
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