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Carbonfibre · Dec 17, 2011

The CNW bikes look great, and glad to see there are people in the US building really nice machines properly! On the other hand there are morons building anchor chain choppers, which are perhaps not quite as desirable as a CNW Norton............lol

mikegray660 · Dec 17, 2011

Carbonfibre said:
The CNW bikes look great, and glad to see there are people in the US building really nice machines properly! On the other hand there are morons building anchor chain choppers, which are perhaps not quite as desirable as a CNW Norton............lol

we got a lot of morons in the US claiming to build "vintage bikes" too and selling them to unsuspecting customers - we've heard a few reports here about it actually - i find this much worse

at least with the CNW you are getting a world class bike - just a question if you like that style of a bike - as we can see a mixed reviews there, but i think all would agree they are masterful

jeffdavison · Dec 17, 2011

marry her.... hm no.

keep her in the garage and ride her when ever I so desired, then put her back in the garage when finished.... hell yes.

JD

ludwig said:
don't know why , but the bike reminds me of Kim Kardashian in her wedding dress ..
very beautifull , extremely polished and manicured , flawless skin ..
But marry her ? ..mm ..

rvich · Dec 17, 2011

ludwig said:
don't know why , but the bike reminds me of Kim Kardashian in her wedding dress ..
very beautifull , extremely polished and manicured , flawless skin ..
But marry her ? ..mm ..

Now...that's FUNNY!

swooshdave · Dec 17, 2011

Given how few Commandos are stock, especially the customized bikes of all of the whiners in this thread, speaks to the level of jealousy. :mrgreen:

rpatton · Dec 17, 2011

jeffdavison said:
marry her.... hm no.
keep her in the garage and ride her when ever I so desired, then put her back in the garage when finished.... hell yes.
JD

It would be like making out with somebody's avatar, creepy. Kim Kardashian is the definition of a 'customized' human being.

rpatton · Dec 17, 2011

Tintin said:
Based on how restoration is defined what CNW does is not a restoration - and that is my point. Matt calls it Custom bikes himself - and that is what they are.
Tim

Tim, you have come to the crux of things. Choice of words matters, " To me that is just another over-restored CNW bike." It isn't an over restored bike because it isn't a restoration to begin with. One doesn't need to parse out the nuance to get the fact that you were dissing the bike though.

Tintin said:
Err, sorry but no. To me that is just another over-restored CNW bike. I appreciate the workmanship and some details but don't fancy the result - far to shiny and bling-bling for my European taste.
Tim

Tintin · Dec 17, 2011

rpatton said:
It isn't an over restored bike because it isn't a restoration to begin with.

I'd be tempted to agree on this.

One doesn't need to parse out the nuance to get the fact that you were dissing the bike though.

Actually no - I'm just not jealous (or proud for that matter). I wouldn't call that "dissing the bike" but that again is a semanthic discussion again. They tend to be pointless.

Tim

Skyguyz · Dec 17, 2011

Tintin wrote:
Err, sorry but no. To me that is just another over-restored CNW bike. I appreciate the workmanship and some details but don't fancy the result - far to shiny and bling-bling for my European taste.
Tim

Tim, your "European taste" is a contradiction of originality. Most of Europe became "Euro-modern" long before the USA. Your reference is frought with emotion without the benefit of intellect. If you appreciate something then the results are born of the workmanship. Your statement in question is akin to stating "I appreciate open heart surgery but I don't like it saving my life" A properly "restored" Commando to it's original state is a marvel in itself. Truly a thing of beauty and grace. A CNW modified Commando is rolling art that simply works.

Brithit · Dec 17, 2011

This thread reminds me of the classic bit by George Carlin on his album A Place For My Stuff:

"Have you every noticed that your stuff is stuff and other people's stuff is sh*t?"

Tintin · Dec 17, 2011

Skyguyz said:
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You don't really expect a decent answer on this one, do you?

Tim

Skyguyz · Dec 17, 2011

Tintin said:
Skyguyz said:

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Click to expand...

You don't really expect a decent answer on this one, do you?

Tim

Emotionale Reaktion vielleicht.

Tintin · Dec 17, 2011

Skyguyz said:
Emotionale Reaktion vielleicht.

No, thanks. Far to lame. :wink:

Regarding your theory that true craftsmanship and artwork necessarily end up in admiration:

:mrgreen:

Tim

ctsbc · Dec 17, 2011

I got bored riding a black commando over the past three decades so decided to 'bling' out the High Rider given that it is already an outlier. The paint is a pearl Lotus Chrome Orange and the restoration was frame up on both MK111 Commandos. The Cafe Racer maintained its black frame.

RennieK · Dec 17, 2011

ctsbc said:
I got bored riding a black commando over the past three decades so decided to 'bling' out the High Rider given that it is already an outlier. The paint is a pearl Lotus Chrome Orange and the restoration was frame up on both MK111 Commandos. The Cafe Racer maintained its black frame.

Nice bit of Blinging there! Now is that paint job orange peel or orange appeal?

RennieK · Dec 17, 2011

It's gotta be rough running a business nowadays like CNW with an on line presence. All your techniques, ideas, innovations, workmanship and prices are on display for the world to see. Every Tom, Dick or Harry can copy, improve upon or diss your every move. You need to produce a 1st rate product at a profitable price. Kenny Dreer attempted this in a big way and from what I have seen on the web, his quality of engineering and bling were also up to modern standards. Smaller enterprises, a very few of whom have posted detailed threads of their builds are crucified for their shortcomings.

All I can say if I ever receive critiques like these for any build of mine from respected forum members (anyone who has done a frame up build of a commando), I will be a happy camper. The only problem with this bike it seems is that it is too good, most critics would have stopped short on the finishing. I feel doing so would have put it and earlier CNW bikes in the same category as all the other one up builds of folks who have spent a lot of time and/or money on their personal rides.

CNW has given us a high mark we can ascend to and if we are content with anything less so be it. Good work Matt and I hope you have something special planned for #100!

ctsbc · Dec 17, 2011

RIP

Two levels of sanding with 1500 and 2000 grit and two levels of polishing/ buffing gets rid of the orange peel left from 'right out of the gun' finish.

Tom

Brithit · Dec 17, 2011

Tom,

Great pics, great bikes! I like the matched color on two bikes - good stuff!

splatt · Dec 17, 2011

RennieK said:
It's gotta be rough running a business nowadays like CNW with an on line presence. All your techniques, ideas, innovations, workmanship and prices are on display for the world to see. Every Tom, Dick or Harry can copy, improve upon or diss your every move. You need to produce a 1st rate product at a profitable price. Kenny Dreer attempted this in a big way and from what I have seen on the web, his quality of engineering and bling were also up to modern standards. Smaller enterprises, a very few of whom have posted detailed threads of their builds are crucified for their shortcomings.

]It's called advertising isn't it,putting it out there for the whole world to see.

RennieK · Dec 17, 2011

Yeah, for sure, it's 6 of one and 1/2 doz. of another. It's surprising how many sites don't post prices though, you have to contact them for quotes and the fine details too.

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