commando side stand spring mount - @ frame

Norvin · Dec 9, 2008

Hello -
just joined moments ago - this seems to be an intelligent forum, with a healthy mix of new owners and those who are more experienced.
in the hopes of finding the information i'm looking for - here goes;
1973 850 commando complete restoration.
i've just reworked the frame alignement , replaced many broken
or cut tabs(this was a real rusty bike) and removed two welded (weld is a pretty generous word in this case ) aftermarket type side stand mounts and restored the original.
What i'm attempting to determine is what the original spring location and hanger looks like ? can anyone post some pics or a quick sketch of the spring mount at the frame for a stock side stand setup ?
all thoughts, advice,opinions, bad jokes are always welcome.

cheers,
Marc

BrianK · Dec 9, 2008

Parts diagram fiches online here may help (?):

http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... s-list.php

BrianK · Dec 9, 2008

This one in particular:

http://www.nortonmotors.de/ANIL/Norton% ... &Plate=014

Hortons Norton · Dec 9, 2008

it goes in a hole in the cross member.

dave M · Dec 9, 2008

I concur with Horton. Mine has a hole in the underside of the cross-tube, about half way along.

Hortons Norton · Dec 9, 2008

I hope you didn't cut off the original tab as some looked pretty nasty. Chuck. You can buy the tabs ready to weld on from a supplier, I just can't remember who.

Reggie · Dec 9, 2008

Go to; http://www.oldbritts.com/ob_start.html

Scroll down and click on; Technical Articles ,

Then under "Upgrading the 1971 Side Stand Lug, Added 01/24/05 "

This shows how to modify the 1971 version, but shows you exactly how the lug fits on all subsequent models, and if required may be able to supply you with one.

Norvin · Dec 9, 2008

thanks - i was wondering if it was the hole in the cross member -
the parts diagrams do not indicate the actual mounting point.
no - i'm certain not to have cut off any tabs, that said -there's no telling what had been done to it before i started rebuilding it. But as it's the hole in the cross member - there wouldnt have been a tab to have been cut off .
thanks all - very helpful.

cheers - Marc

BillT · Dec 9, 2008

Norvin said:
thanks - i was wondering if it was the hole in the cross member -
the parts diagrams do not indicate the actual mounting point.
no - i'm certain not to have cut off any tabs, that said -there's no telling what had been done to it before i started rebuilding it. But as it's the hole in the cross member - there wouldnt have been a tab to have been cut off .
thanks all - very helpful.

cheers - Marc

True there wouldn't have been a tab to cut off, but an uninformed person may weld up such a hole, thinking he's repairing rust or a screw hole from a modification

RennieK · Dec 9, 2008

That hole is in the lowest position possible on the Commando frame and it's to drain excess water due to condensation from within the entire Commando frame. Plugging it with the end of the side stand spring could cause the frame to fill with water eventually which will cause adverse effects when cornering.

You did ask for bad jokes didn't you Mark?

BrianK · Dec 9, 2008

Guess I misunderstood the question, sorry.

I will say, having just mounted yet another new spring on the side stand (and I don't even use the thing! The original was shot when I got the bike, and I screwed up the first replacement through some less than strategic "lift" ing of the bike), by far the easiest way to mount is to put the spring in place at both ends first, then bolt the sidestand on.

I've done the pennies between the coils bit, which works okay, but this is MUCH easier.

Best of luck with your project. And pix, please, when available!

Norvin · Dec 11, 2008

bolting the stand up after installing the spring is an interesting approach, i'd never considered that before.
Lang Hindle showed me a trick he developped for installing his exhaust systems - which use a spring /stub setup at the head and also for the can.
simply use an 8'' piece of bailing wired and a phillips or robertson screwdriver. take the wire and fold it in half - both tail ends of the wire get spun onto the blade of the screw driver. you've now got a draw bar with a point for a spring to hook into (the bend in the wire) pull with both hands safely to stretch the spring until it clips into home. and pull the screwdriver out of the wire you coiled around it. remove the wire .done.
cheers,
marc

MichaelB · Dec 11, 2008

Norvin said:
bolting the stand up after installing the spring is an interesting approach, i'd never considered that before.
Lang Hindle showed me a trick he developped for installing his exhaust systems - which use a spring /stub setup at the head and also for the can.
simply use an 8'' piece of bailing wired and a phillips or robertson screwdriver. take the wire and fold it in half - both tail ends of the wire get spun onto the blade of the screw driver. you've now got a draw bar with a point for a spring to hook into (the bend in the wire) pull with both hands safely to stretch the spring until it clips into home. and pull the screwdriver out of the wire you coiled around it. remove the wire .done.
cheers,
marc

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commando side stand spring mount - @ frame

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