Commando Fastback opportunity

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Got phone call this morning from a friend who wants a Fastback. He travelled from rural west NSW and had a look at the bike listed below in Sydney, AUST.

He offered him $13K. But the bloke won’t budge ! And I think he is justified !!?

He wants $16K !

I would love to have this bike! But I have 2 bikes now !

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NORTON-COMMA ... 43ac675cb6
 
Well, my 750 isn't a fastback; but I would sell it right now for half that. :D ( and include the special Corbin made two-up touring seat it has !) Me thinks that a bike is only worth what someone will pay ... but he only needs one buyer. Kudos to the seller if he gets that much. I just think it's a little high priced IMO ...
 
Prices in Australia for Nortons and Truimph for that matter are going through the roof, 2 years ago you could get one for about $5,000/$6,000 but now they have doubled and more, but some times you can still get a bargin but you got to be lucky.

Ashley
 
There is a fastback on U.S. Ebay right now for a lot less, but...let's just say it needs a little TLC !!!!!!!!!!!!

GB
 
I saw this happen 10 years ago with Ducati bevel SS's. They went from 5 to 8k to 15k, now $25 to $35k for a good restored one.
I remember when they were worth $1 per cc for the different models. (and I'm not that old,,,,, well nearly not that old)
graeme
 
Hey Graeme

Actually some years back Classic Bike mag UK quoted as stating "forget the rattles, clunks and oil leaks buy a Commando for the best possible bike investment" unquote ~

I was offered a Comando Fastback years ago (1970s) for $50 ~ completely in bits !! I was beaten to the draw!! ~ if only by a whisker ~
 
L.A.B. said:
Same Fastback was in US last year: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=Vie ... 26_fvi%3D1

"100% completely original"

Except for...

"A few upgrades"

This fastback was sold at the Los Vegas auction in 2011. Believe it belonged to Art Sirota, one our clubs old members. As I recall he bought two new sets of the red and quick silver fastback tanks/tails in the early 80s. There was a '69 that looks nearly identical ("69 Fastback" on the pedestrial slicer). You can have my '72 combat roadster for $10,000. Bring cash :)
 
Ifed~

After talking to "Ken", he said the (Ozzie) bloke bought it in USA and exported it back to Australia ~ About says it all ! (?)

After all this bloke in Sydney I believe is a trader ~

And btw, $16K is about par for good classics in Australia ~ Mate sold a Commando in Brisbane last year after he asked me what I figured was a realistic price for a US Import and trophy winning Commando ~ $17K And the bloke that bought it apparently jumped at it, never even blinked ~
 
If it is %100 original, it has a widowmaker frame! My 1st bike was identical to that one minus the slicer. I paid $750 for it in 1973. After the frame cracked for the second time,(no one told me about a recall) I traded it in on a brand new 1975 Ducati GT. I sold that bike in 1982 for a lousey $1000.(didn't even need the money,I had 2 kids and didn't want to take a chance on injuring my self) Let's do the math: 1 Norton Fastback @ $12000 plus 1 Ducati GT @ $12000 = $24000.

The moral of the story; NEVER let go of a good bike, just buy another and another....... I even had BARNS on the farm to store them in. Its not even the money, I just wish I still had both of them. :cry:

Mike Wolf
 
mw21837 said:
Let's do the math: 1 Norton Fastback @ $12000 plus 1 Ducati GT @ $12000 = $24000.

The moral of the story; NEVER let go of a good bike, just buy another and another....... I even had BARNS on the farm to store them in. Its not even the money, I just wish I still had both of them. :cry:

Mike Wolf



Amen to that....... :lol:
 
Yikes!! That's big $ but it is very nice. I bought a complete very early Fastback at a garage sale for $75.00 in 1982 a saddley sold it to some guy from Australia who was filling shipping crates here in the U.S. to take back Aus. I think I let it go for less then $500. I guess he got a good return for his $.
 
Couple of comments on the brit bike space in Australia as it appears at the moment.

The strength of the AU$ means that there are a lot of bikes being imported from the US and UK over the last few years. Numerous dealers/traders have sprung up out of nowhere to cash in on the scheme. Buy a commando sight unseen for US$3-4k in the states and sell it here for $10k if its ordinary or $15k+ if it looks nice. People are buying bikes here for that money. The real issue is not so much the profiteering thats going on but the market and the 2nd line services that sit behind these expensive bikes.

There are very few specialist brit bike mechanics and service providers here now. Most old timers got out of the industry in the 80s when the bikes were being given away and no one really cared about commandos or bonnies. The resurgence in the market over the last few years means lots of bikes and no one to work on them. My view is the resurgence has come about partly because bikes are a relatively inexpensive hobby compared to collecting cars (ask me how I know!) or houses or whatever. In a struggling economy people want to spend as little as possible to have fun and old bikes are a good way to do that. Theres also the nostalgia factor etc.

Great example from last week. I was over talking to my mechanic (who is one of the old timers and was working on commandos when they were new) and a new customer has come in with a Mk3 that he had bought from ebay interstate sight unseen. This was a middle aged guy who owns a few bikes and wanted a commando. Wanted a Mk3 because of electric start etc, ok fine. He paid $16k for this bike and had to outbid 20 or so others for the privilege. So cosmetically this Mk3 looked quite nice and there was a long list of repairs that the seller had done (seller buys bikes from the US and fixes them up in his backyard and flips them on ebay for a profit). Closer inspection revealed not all was well. Most of its original parts were missing and it had an early gearbox fitted with the numbers rubbed off and some odd contraption to convert it to right hand change. Wiring was all wrong, wrong wheels, crappy aftermarket headers and pipes. Carbs were badly worn, jetted wrong etc. E Starter was working intermittently, it sounded like a harley and there was a strange noise in the bottom end plus a host of other things I cant recall.

So here's this guy who knows very little about Nortons bought a Mk3 for quite big money thinking he's going to ride off into the sunset and now he's being told it needs 3-4k just to tidy it up plus the e-starter, and trying to find a good Mk3 gearbox, cost unknown. Not a great situation for him as he's into the early 20s just to get it running properly. This kind of scenario is happening every day here and the effect could be something like what happened in the 80s where the market gets flooded with crappy bikes and no one wants to or could be bothered fixing them, if they could even find someone decent to fix it.

Talking of early fastbacks, I came across an early one in the mechanics shop a little while back and it was a nice example. It had been fixed up over several years, little bit of money spent here and there and now its an A grade bike and rides like a good commando should. Still needs cosmetics done but the guy has repeatedly knocked back $20k for it with the argument "where am I going to get another one thats as good?" He's right of course, there arent many A grade ones around and he would have to fight with other buyers to get his hands on it.

One gets the feeling that something is going to break soon as far as this situation goes here. It cant continue the way it is.
 
Blacklotus, well said. i know that situation very well, first hand!
Tim
 
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