Another new Triumph, and a surprize one at that!

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Another new Triumph, and a surprize one at that!

Motocross

From the adrenaline-filled first corner to the finish line expect next-level racing capability with triumph's all-new motocross series.
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The price seems very high. This is a little 250 cc dirtbike costing substantially more than I paid for their 1200cc Thruxton R roadbike with the optional fairing and heated grips! That was in 2016 and I guess there has been inflation since, but still this seems like very poor value. 10k gbp would be close to 20k cdn out the door.

Noticing the "starts at" price is 9800 gbp I tried the configuration. With all options in the price lands at 12,350 gbp + taxes. This would equate to about 23,000 CDN.


Glen
 
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My first motocross bike ‘78 kx125 was $800 cash , only used once before , seller just wanted it gone … that was good value even at the time , barrel of fun too 😎
 
worntorn said:
The price seems very high. This is a little 250 cc dirtbike costing substantially more than I paid for their 1200cc Thruxton R roadbike with the optional fairing and heated grips! That was in 2016 and I guess there has been inflation since, but still this seems like very poor value. 10k gbp would be close to 20k cdn out the door.

Noticing the "starts at" price is 9800 gbp I tried the configuration. With all options in the price lands at 12,350 gbp + taxes. This would equate to about 23,000 CDN.


Glen
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How does that compare with other brands of race bikes?
 
concours said:
How does that compare with other brands of race bikes?
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Good question. That is a race machine… not a ‘dirt bike’!

And, best to wait until US / CD prices are announced, prices here in the U.K. are almost always more expensive than anywhere else when converted to local currency.
 
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I've often wondered why Hinckley triumph don't bring out a 125 to grab a bit of learner / commuter market in the UK ?
Not enough profit maybe
 
Canada Moto guide has new triumph 250 motocross bike at $11,495 plus DP & tax , shipping
 
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Fast Eddie said:
Good question. That’s is a race machine… not a ‘dirt bike’!

And, best to wait until US / CD prices are announced, prices here in the U.K. are almost always more expensive than anywhere else when converted to local currency.
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I've always ridden Mx bikes in the dirt, it just seems like they are made for it :)
There is no special status for them over here, they are just considered to be dirt bikes. They tend to be very cheap to buy once they have a few hours on.



Glen
 
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worntorn said:
I've always ridden Mx bikes in the dirt, it just seems like they are made for it :)
There is no special status for them over here, they are just considered to be dirt bikes. They tend to be very cheap to buy once they have a few hours on.



Glen
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Yes but that’s not what this Triumph is is it?

This is a current, competitive, high end, race bike.

When it’s got some hours on it AND it’s no longer cutting edge, no longer competitive, that’s when they’ll become cheap used dirt bikes.
 
I'm pretty sure it's just another Mxer like the yz250 kx250 etc, all built for racing around in the dirt. I was looking at the Yamaha offering on sale locally at 8900 cdn recently. The Yamaha is a very refined machine, I suspect the Triumph will take a few model years to get there.
That's why I was a bit shocked at the 23,000 cdn price tag on the UK Triumph 250.
It seems a lot of that extra is just in the UK price, as you suggested and as Craig posted.

Surprisingly these 250 four strokers are almost the same weight as my old 2 stroke 490 Maico, also built for racing around in the dirt.

Glen
 
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worntorn said:
I'm pretty sure it's just another Mxer like the yz250 kx250 etc, all built for racing around in the dirt. I was looking at the Yamaha offering on sale locally at 8900 cdn recently. The Yamaha is a very refined machine, I suspect the Triumph will take a few model years to get there.
That's why I was a bit shocked at the 23,000 cdn price tag on the UK Triumph 250.
It seems a lot of that extra is just in the UK price, as you suggested and as Craig posted.

Surprisingly these 250 four strokers are almost the same weight as my old 2 stroke 490 Maico, also built for racing around in the dirt.

Glen
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Maybe it’s different over there, but bikes like this are not just for ‘racing around in the dirt’ over here.

There are very seriously competitive race classes. The top lads buy the best kit, and it filters down from there. Always been the same.
 
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The MXers are quite affordable so lots of regular dirt riders use them for play. There are only a few "top lads" but the manufacturers are mass producing these bikes and need to sell them.
I suppose the real top riders do not buy bikes like the Triumph or the YZ 250. They get lighter faster factory versions for free.

My riding buddy is 70 and just bought a new Husky FC350 Motocrosser as a retirement present to himself. Husky claims it has the weight of a 250 and the power of a 450.
I was tempted by that new YZ250 on sale. 8900 is only about 5k gbp.
We can pretend we are top lads!

Glen
 
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worntorn said:
The MXers are quite affordable so lots of regular dirt riders use them for play. There are only a few "top lads" but the manufacturers are mass producing these bikes and need to sell them.
I suppose the real top riders do not buy bikes like the Triumph or the YZ 250. They get lighter faster factory versions for free.

My riding buddy is 70 and just bought a new Husky FC350 Motocrosser as a retirement present to himself. Husky claims it has the weight of a 250 and the power of a 450.
I was tempted by that new YZ250 on sale. 8900 is only about 5k gbp.
We can pretend we are top lads!

Glen
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So…

The top riders won’t be buying new Triumphs cos they’re not good enough...

Everyone else won’t be buying them cos they’re too expensive…

Wonder if Triumph realise how monumentally they’ve cocked up here ??
 
What has been said holds true back when I hit the serious dirt in’78 , we have half dozen motocross tracks with in 20 minutes of town , had a ‘76 GMC step side then could haul 3 125/250 bikes to use tracks after hours , no issues other 2 were Yam & Suzuki the Suzy newest and water cooled , ran the airplane fuel sold by local small airport , pretty sure 125cc motocross racing worldwide was very popular all 3 bikes kept track ready …. a great way to blow off steam and keep us fit …. not sure of prices new back then but just so many around our area (to this day too) … hair trigger 2Stroke m/c bikes not for faint of heart on real track a lot of fun every time out
 
Craig said:
What has been said holds true back when I hit the serious dirt in’78 , we have half dozen motocross tracks with in 20 minutes of town , had a ‘76 GMC step side then could haul 3 125/250 bikes to use tracks after hours , no issues other 2 were Yam & Suzuki the Suzy newest and water cooled , ran the airplane fuel sold by local small airport , pretty sure 125cc motocross racing worldwide was very popular all 3 bikes kept track ready …. a great way to blow off steam and keep us fit …. not sure of prices new back then but just so many around our area (to this day too) … hair trigger 2Stroke m/c bikes not for faint of heart on real track a lot of fun every time out
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I bought my first dirt racer at the tender age of 14. This was an Ossa Stilleto Mxer fitted with a lot of special parts.
The seller was a racer who had been sponsored by Cariboo Cycles, the local Triumph/Ossa dealer. He crashed it at the Portland racetrack and received a serious back injury, so that was the end of his racing career.
The bike was very fast with all sorts of special factory parts. I think he was a bit concerned about selling the bike to a kid, but he needed the money.
I got on OK with it after some initial learning experiences.

Glen
 
Those early flyers could surprise guys in heavier 4 strokes especially on the tight tracks around here …. find myself looking back more often now ,then maybe healthy for a fella , haha ….
 
Those 2 strokes were light. Later on I had an Ossa Phantom which was the first sub 200 lb 250 class mxer.

The 4 stroke Mxers built today are better in many ways but they are substantially heavier than those Ossas were.
I guess the water cooling adds some weight as does 4 stroke.

Glen
 
Fast Eddie said:
So…

The top riders won’t be buying new Triumphs cos they’re not good enough...

Everyone else won’t be buying them cos they’re too expensive…

Wonder if Triumph realise how monumentally they’ve cocked up here ??
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Triumph indicates that they have already signed a top rider for this new bike. He won't be concerned about the price as he will get the bike for free and also will get paid to ride it, lucky guy!
Not only that, it will likely be higher spec than the version that Triumph will sell to the masses.
I was just a bit surprised at the relatively high price of it, sorry if that offended somehow.
It will be interesting to see if it is competitive straight out of the gate. They are an impressive company, maybe they can do it.

Glen
 
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