Amal carbs are manufactured where?

“All Amal carburetters are made here in our Salisbury factory. Mark 2 Concentric castings marked “Made in Spain” are sourced from Arreche in Spain who formerly made Amal carburetters under licence”. When the new tooling which is currently on order is introduced the Mark 2 will revert to being marked “England”.

For the time being the material used to cast Mark 1 Concentric bodies remains Mazac – the zinc alloy they have always been made from. The reference in the announcement to new materials refers to the new slides, floats and needle valves.

Our testing has shown that the anodised slides significantly reduce the rate of body wear in a similar way to that found on “sleeved” carburetters.”

The above statement from "Burlen" appears to to be directly at odds with an article in the UK bike press, so while I cant see anything at all wrong with carbs made outside the UK, maybe Burlen would be good enough to clarify whether or not the OBM article was mistaken or not?

Carbonfibre said:

The above statement from "Burlen" appears to to be directly at odds with an article in the UK bike press, so while I cant see anything at all wrong with carbs made outside the UK, maybe Burlen would be good enough to clarify whether or not the OBM article was mistaken or not?

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I think you may have to contact Burlen directly to get an answer?

I did invite Burlen to join in with the original discussion-but they declined.

Because:

Although we have participated in discussions on other Forums in the past we would be reluctant to do so in this case. One of the participants in this thread appears to be driven by a personal agenda that is immune to fact or argument and we would not wish to be drawn into an extended and irrational dispute.

Burlen Fuel Systems Limited

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Now, who could that "participant" possibly be, I wonder? :roll:

Ah Well . . . , at least they dont leak oil . :wink: Anyway .

Actually , if they had their act together . . . Correct me if Im wrong . . . But ,

They'd Anodise the BODY , ass if worn , thats what makes them a right off .

The Anodiseing surface hardening the material . In Commie model aero engines , what they refer to as ' Plasma Coating ' , is a form of anodiseing .
And extremely hard . Used on what they call ' A.A.C. ' piston / liner sets . The Pistons Silicon Aluminium , the liner electroplated Alloy .For compatable
expansion rates / fit . Much the same as Nikasil .

The Original Concentric problem was haveing materials that were NOT disimilar (they were the same even ) which exaservates wear,
disimilar materials interacting tend to wear less .Were the Old 'T T ' and early monoblocks Chromed Brass slides ??

The Concentric was touted as being less expensive to produce . Relevant for large volume production , percentage wise of overall cost .
However lower production levels ( or Rates also ) would justify the use of superior ALLOYS for durability .

A shortcut would be anodised BODYs , Not being Italian ,RED would be inappropriate , and I dont like it anyway . . Silver , Blue , and good old
GREEN , the British National Raceing colour would. Though someone might think the silver ones german on that count ? .

So getting all with it in the space age , Anodised carbs would be a ' up market ' move , and black ones ' IN ' . top of the line ,
like Black Shadows , etc , and so on . . . Though coloured anodiseing and hardening anodiseing arnt neccesarily the same thing . :?

Then there was their MAGNESIUM bodied Concentrics . .

also im not sure that the baloney about cutting on monoblocks , with lean , was other than tripe . With modern (70s) tyres alowing more lean ,
to the One G vertical To The Bike , whilst it leans @ 40 - 45 Deg . i.e. the force is pretty much akin to gravity .


To quote the V8 flathead tuners guide " The side valve will return , the o.h.v. is just a passing phase . " :shock: :cry:

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Carbonfibre said:

The above statement from "Burlen" appears to to be directly at odds with an article in the UK bike press, so while I cant see anything at all wrong with carbs made outside the UK, maybe Burlen would be good enough to clarify whether or not the OBM article was mistaken or not?

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I think you may have to contact Burlen directly to get an answer?

I did invite Burlen to join in with the original discussion-but they declined.

Because:

Although we have participated in discussions on other Forums in the past we would be reluctant to do so in this case. One of the participants in this thread appears to be driven by a personal agenda that is immune to fact or argument and we would not wish to be drawn into an extended and irrational dispute.

Burlen Fuel Systems Limited

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Maybe Amal would like to explain the reasons for a press article posted on their web pages, contradicting whats been claimed on here about MK1 Concentrics being made entirely in house?

Carbonfibre said:

Maybe Amal would like to explain the reasons for a press article posted on their web pages, contradicting whats been claimed on here about MK1 Concentrics being made entirely in house?

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If you could perhaps tell us which part of...."I think you may have to contact Burlen directly to get an answer.
I did invite Burlen to join in with the original discussion-but they declined."...it is that you are having difficulty understanding then we will try our best to explain it to you?

If you really want to know then I suggest you ASK BURLEN: http://www.burlen.co.uk/

The feathers, he be a rufflin!

Emailed them a couple of months ago, as I was curious about reports of 900 series carbs being made in China, but as yet no response! In my view having parts such as carbs made in the Far East is a very good idea though, as lower unit costs should mean there is room for worthwhile quality improvements in future, while still retaining good profit levels.

Outsourcing manufacture of parts to the Far East is something that Triumph and Harley Davidson have been doing for many years, but like Amal they seem very reticent to admit to this, as I guess end users of the bikes may not feel comfortable with the fact that around 90% of the bike they are riding was made in the Far East!

Carbonfibre said:

Emailed them a couple of months ago, as I was curious about reports of 900 series carbs being made in China, but as yet no response! In my view having parts such as carbs made in the Far East is a very good idea though, as lower unit costs should mean there is room for worthwhile quality improvements in future, while still retaining good profit levels.

Outsourcing manufacture of parts to the Far East is something that Triumph and Harley Davidson have been doing for many years, but like Amal they seem very reticent to admit to this, as I guess end users of the bikes may not feel comfortable with the fact that around 90% of the bike they are riding was made in the Far East!

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if it's a good idea, why do you care?
my own opinion is that I don't give a crap where the parts come from as long as they work and keep my motorcycles on the road (I have 2 Nortons, do you own a motorcycle?)
with all due respect (not much) but I enjoyed this forum much more before your inane ramblings, apparent lack of anything usefull to say and, frankly contradictory stance on about everything you have commented upon in your 700 plus posts.
Could you please go and find a conspiracy theory website, they would love you there - or maybe online gaming might suit your personality?
Just my 2 cents

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I guess end users of the bikes may not feel comfortable with the fact that around 90% of the bike they are riding was made in the Far East!

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Carbonfibre, I cannot tell you how relieved i am to know that all your rhetoric is on our behalves and I for one would like to simply say, Thank you.

However, if what I need (to keep the enjoyment alive and the ride consistent) comes from China, Vietnam or Tucumcari, well then so be it. Wouldn't you agree that in this particular instance, the end will justifies the means?

On the Type 276 float chambers, it still says 'Amal Birmingham' in the name of historical accuracy rather than a declaration of origin because they're not made in Brummagem anymore.

I'm prepared to pay extra for locally manufactured parts, but we have to be realistic about what now remains of industry in the UK. It simply isn't that easy to commission production at any price.

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Carbonfibre said:

Emailed them a couple of months ago, as I was curious about reports of 900 series carbs being made in China, but as yet no response! In my view having parts such as carbs made in the Far East is a very good idea though, as lower unit costs should mean there is room for worthwhile quality improvements in future, while still retaining good profit levels.

Outsourcing manufacture of parts to the Far East is something that Triumph and Harley Davidson have been doing for many years, but like Amal they seem very reticent to admit to this, as I guess end users of the bikes may not feel comfortable with the fact that around 90% of the bike they are riding was made in the Far East!

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if it's a good idea, why do you care?
my own opinion is that I don't give a crap where the parts come from as long as they work and keep my motorcycles on the road (I have 2 Nortons, do you own a motorcycle?)
with all due respect (not much) but I enjoyed this forum much more before your inane ramblings, apparent lack of anything usefull to say and, frankly contradictory stance on about everything you have commented upon in your 700 plus posts.
Could you please go and find a conspiracy theory website, they would love you there - or maybe online gaming might suit your personality?
Just my 2 cents

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I guess you are pleased to put up with poor quality parts which wear out quickly then, and feel that any comment on such things are "inane ramblings" ?

A lot of posters on here are seemingly not aware of how much more enjoyable their bikes will be to ride and use, simply through fitting a few good quality modern parts, which in some cases are cheaper than OE items such as Amal carbs.

"A shortcut would be anodised BODYs , Not being Italian ,RED would be inappropriate , and I dont like it anyway ."

Italian racing red is my favorite color. I even see Porsches with Italian racing red calipers.

It is possible to anodise pot metal, but any material with a lot of impurities will mean a high reject rate, and it would probably be cheaper to have the proper tooling made so the carbs should be made from more suitable material.