After market Commando CONROD

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I need some option for after market Commando CONROD, i will use this conrod on my triumph using norton cranks
i saw carrillo rods but i can't modify the end pin to 19.05mm since carrillo rod have very little material around it

After market Commando CONROD


something like this will probably be able to modify, any idea what brand should i go for?
After market Commando CONROD
 
it is suitable , but the cost for new nuts bearing shell rebalance seems cost me not so far from getting a new one like carrillo, so i try to look for after market one... if i can't find one i will use oem commando..
 
Hopefully JS will chime in here with details of his rods and lightweight pistons, since I don't have the full scoop on them. Sound very interesting, and proven, for performance Commandos...
 
You will have to get new shells and rebalance whichever option you go with. I cant believe that aftermarket conrods are more expensive than buying shells, nuts and bolts for your existing con rods, these components have always been very reasonable when I have changed them on a rebuild - which I do on any engine overhaul.
 
i haven't buy the norton conrod yet, this is for my triumph project using norton cranks no conrod in my hands right now

in the market a used norton conrod and all the new parts needed to change cost from 210-250
a carrillo cost 570 - 600 adding couple of hundreds i got a brand new conrod...
from what i see at JS website he sell carrillo rods..

i need to modify the pin diameter to 19.05mm so it can fit T140 piston.
 
Dave Nourish could probably supply rods to suit..

Nourish Racing Engine Co
13 Manor Lane, Langham
Oakham
LE15 7JL

+44 1572 722712

or Thunder Engineering can make quality one offs at a reasonable price (I use them in one of my race engines)

http://www.thunderengineering.co.uk
 
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Joe, that is a very great input.. i think i should go with OEM one.. its not for racing use too anyway.
i will use half of money to order hydraulic clutch than...
 
I've paid close attention to Norton rod breakage reports to find they only break AFTER something else lets go first. I've read a couple reports of 920 engines breaking them near top end but may have missed what let go first. TC's 150 hp 8000+ rpm dragster engines did 160 runs on factory rods and parts. I would have factory rod in Peel's blown 920 but for two reasons, one these rod survived/endured over 11,000 rpm, so a few orders of piston jerk and crank flex loads way over their designed use but mainly because Jim's lighter pistons gave better/lower CR than the Coswell pistons and JIm's kit came with special piston pins in the Carillo rods which are lighter than factory rods. Peel's crank had already been dynamic balanced for the factory rods just before Jim's new kit came out. I'm more pensive on the rod bolts capacity weakness than factory rods. Norton rods are over built enough they don't experience the Al fatigue failure unless being run way harder-faster than any street-able engine I've ever heard of. Norton rods are not power/torque/time limited only HI RPM piston jerk down acceleration G force SPIKE limited but still ain't found that limit before crank, cases and alternator and oil pump/cam drive bend, crack or come apart first. M.A.P. Cycles in Fla. was the first I saw with all Al rods and caps that look like the Al example shown above. Just need to grind cases a bit to clear the bigger size Al end caps. Don't know what that does to crank BF except it should lower it some d/t being a bit lighter near the counter weight area.
 
sorry i think this is out of topic question,

can someone tell me std dia journals of commando crankshaft, i need to calculate which bearing shells should i buy.
 
Manual lists Crank big end journals: 1.7505" - 1.7500", 44.462/44.450 mm.
When I fitted Trixie Combat std rod shells to std journals I had to razor blade scrape em for all around even clearance going by assembled witness marks and drag sense.
 
MARTIN.K said:
I need some option for after market Commando CONROD, i will use this conrod on my triumph using norton cranks
i saw carrillo rods but i can't modify the end pin to 19.05mm since carrillo rod have very little material around it

All it takes is a call to Carrillo. They will make your Norton rods to any length or pin size you want. Minimum order is 4. Jim
 
back to conrod, carrillo spec use = BE Bore - 1.8957" / 48.15mm..

48.15mm - 44.450mm = 3.7mm
48.15mm - 44.462mm = 3.688mm
that means, 3.688mm - 3.7mm (std bearing shells thickness)
 
Like Jim said, Carrillo will make rods for you to any spec you require. I've had them make rods for me for Nortons and other brands in a variety of custom sizes. They are a bit pricey, but they are as good as it gets for quality.

Ken
 
carrillo make a good one but too pricey for me, 378 each.. min 4 hmmm.. i'm not going for competition or something.. :D
 
I certainly can understand that. When I first started using Carrillo rods they cost me a little under $200 each, and I thought that was a lot. Much worse now. But that's what they have to sell them for to stay in business.

Ken
 
thanks for encouragement to go this path .. got the order form for making custom rod, need help full filling this form..

especially F to L, since i don't have any rods and bearing shells in hand right now..

After market Commando CONROD
 
Wouldn't you need the pistons in hand before rod data can be finalized? The factory manual has the dimensions if no one pipes up and I'm lazy even on my own project details. Rod/Stroke ratio can fine tune cam breathing rpm character. Jim Schmidt has the whole kit and helps us all to support him, unless something very different with your engine construction. I'll take your left over under built breakage prone 4 decade old fatigued Norton risky rods, as been through a few no fault of their own and so has my Cdo buddy. Will be interesting someday to see what Carillo rods look like after valve clash or piston failure or crank bending rpms siezure/explosion.
 
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