650SS / Atlas Headlight & Instrument Panel

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Hi all

Long time lurker !

Currently piecing together a 650SS, non matching (67 alternator & magneto engine) with Slimline frame and 7" wide forks

Can anyone point me in the right direction re the correct headlight ( ammeter ? Switch ? ) , and the correct instrument panel (switch ? ) to take speedo & tacho

Cheers
 
I've been told that the correct speedo and tachometer for my 68 is the Norton green dot type. My 68 has the green globe instruments and the resident expert says those are incorrect for the bike. 67 is likely the same, green dot.

Glen
 
Hi Taztiger,

The fact that your bike is a mixture may cause you a few problems in the headlight / instrument area.

Norton s/line featherbeds used two different widths of fork I.e. 7inch width to 1964 and 7 3/8inch with steering lock thereafter. The fork width impacts the clock mounting so I'll summarise my (not necessarily perfect) knowledge of the specs.

To 64 - chronometric speedo recessed into the black painted headlight shell with holes for a light switch and 'letterbox, type Lucas ammeter. A chronometric rev-counter was an optional extra and mounted on a separate bracket under the fork nut (usually on the timing side but some dealers/owners mounted them on the opposite side).

65 to 66 - same arrangement as above but with 'grey face' magnetic clocks

66 on - clocks remounted on a single plate (7 3/8 in centres) together with the light switch. The headlight shell was changed to a black painted one with only an ammeter hole. (A warning light holes may have been added later)

The above relates to bikes with magnetos.

Other relevant points are that the chronometric speedos read to 140mph (i.e. 20 mph faster than a Bonnie!) so I suspect the same applied to the magnetic clocks.

Green globe clocks were introduced with the Commando and to the best of my knowledge never fitted to the featherbed bikes.

Hope this helps. If you need any further information I can probably dig it out.

Graham
1964 650ss owner
 
I couldn't post the link but searching Google images with 'Norton 650ss speedo' shows most of the options
 
Hi Taztiger,

The fact that your bike is a mixture may cause you a few problems in the headlight / instrument area.

Norton s/line featherbeds used two different widths of fork I.e. 7inch width to 1964 and 7 3/8inch with steering lock thereafter. The fork width impacts the clock mounting so I'll summarise my (not necessarily perfect) knowledge of the specs.

To 64 - chronometric speedo recessed into the black painted headlight shell with holes for a light switch and 'letterbox, type Lucas ammeter. A chronometric rev-counter was an optional extra and mounted on a separate bracket under the fork nut (usually on the timing side but some dealers/owners mounted them on the opposite side).

65 to 66 - same arrangement as above but with 'grey face' magnetic clocks

66 on - clocks remounted on a single plate (7 3/8 in centres) together with the light switch. The headlight shell was changed to a black painted one with only an ammeter hole. (A warning light holes may have been added later)

The above relates to bikes with magnetos.

Other relevant points are that the chronometric speedos read to 140mph (i.e. 20 mph faster than a Bonnie!) so I suspect the same applied to the magnetic clocks.

Green globe clocks were introduced with the Commando and to the best of my knowledge never fitted to the featherbed bikes.

Hope this helps. If you need any further information I can probably dig it out.

Graham
1964 650ss owner
Thanks Graham, I think I can get the plate with switch to suit 7in wide forks so just need to sort out a headlight
 
Thanks Graham, I think I can get the plate with switch to suit 7in wide forks so just need to sort out a headlight

Not sure, but I do not think a single plate for the 7 inch forks ever existed. You could fab one up if you choose to.

Slick
 
66 on - clocks remounted on a single plate (7 3/8 in centres) together with the light switch. The headlight shell was changed to a black painted one with only an ammeter hole. (A warning light holes may have been added later)

The grey faced speedo went to 120mph and did not have a trip meter, the tacho was 8000 rpm with a 2-1 ratio, the headlight with a speedo in it was still available as an option, my late '66 [or early 67 as it was shipped on the 29 September 1966] was supplied to the New Zealand police force with the speedo in the headlight and a chronometric speedo, the chronometric was more accurate for policing duties, I have also owned a 1972 registered drum brake Commando that was ex Police it was also fitted with a chronometric speedo.
 
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