3-phase question

YING said:
Will a 3-phase system with LED lights handle a jacket liner that draws 6.5amps-75watts?
Thanks,Mike
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yes. Because the jacket controller pulses, and will draw significantly less in use.

To prove it to yourself, ride a half hour with the jacket on high and check your system voltage.
 
concours said:
yes. Because the jacket controller pulses, and will draw significantly less in use.

To prove it to yourself, ride a half hour with the jacket on high and check your system voltage.
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Thanks.That draw is with the liner at full strength. I just didn’t want to get stranded by my ignorance on electrical issues.
Mike
 
YING said:
Will a 3-phase system with LED lights handle a jacket liner that draws 6.5amps-75watts?
Thanks,Mike
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Since you have LEDs, an original single-phase system will just work as only the ignition is drawing significant current. Today, there are four variations in current capability:
Single Phase 10 amp (original) (Fine for a standard bike)
Single Phase 16 amp (My least favorite)
3-Phase 10.5 amp (My choice in almost all situations).
3-Phase 14.5 amp (Helpful with standard lighting and added accessories)

So, just being 3-phase adds little capability, but it does add more current capability at lower RPMs.

BTW, the amp rating is the capability - the load determines how much current actually flows. Also, the current capability increases as the RPMs increase - at idle there is very little capability!

A good battery is needed - when you're at a stop light with the vest on (or normal lighting), the stator will not keep up but a good fully charged battery will make that a non-issue. A good battery is especially true with e-start and if old Lead Acid, GEL, or AGM, the biggest you can fit - the current used to start the bike must be replaced by the charging system while riding.

I'm sure you know that a Norton should not be ridden at low RPMs, use the gears!
 
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3-phase question
 
I run the high output 3 phase on my MK2 850 and have many days of warm and toasty ridings wearing my jacket liner. Even had it on with the original altenator and it seemed ok. Just this last couple of ride this season bike would sometimes shut off at stop signs and traffic lights after highway runs...suspected it was liner power drain and learned to shut it off before slowing rpms, seemed to avoid engine shut offs. Then when running with no liner I found the incandescent turn signals looking very dim until blipping throttle. Testing battery later it was way down and after charging would not keep 12.5v if a lamp was on and engine off. Batt is now about 6 yrs old...agm. so perhaps its time for renewal.
 
I have a 14.5 amp 3 phase and found the jacket and gloves on a test ride on high with the Halogen headlight on was a little two much for it unless RPM was way up. I'm changing to LED head and tail lights over the winter.

Meanwhile I'm getting good use out of my new jacket liner and gloves. I normally plow our place with an open station loader/backhoe - digger for some. We just had our first snow so I wired up an SAE connector and plugged in. I've never been so comfortable! Since the controller was in an inside pocket I ended up using apartment control - open the window, in this case open the jacket.
 
I have one of those heated vests and couldn't count how many times I got off the bike forgetting to unplug it. If I ever decide to ride in the shoulder seasons again, a heated jacket with a rechargeable battery would be the way I would go. No drain on the bike charging system
 
BERT said:
I have one of those heated vests and couldn't count how many times I got off the bike forgetting to unplug it. If I ever decide to ride in the shoulder seasons again, a heated jacket with a rechargeable battery would be the way I would go. No drain on the bike charging system
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Bert,
I have tried 2 different makes with the rechargeable batteries and to me they are worthless!These were the 7V models. They might be okay for a hunter but I could not tell if they were even on.No drain on the charging system, just your wallet.Maybe someone else has had better luck
Mike
 
YING said:
Bert,
I have tried 2 different makes with the rechargeable batteries and to me they are worthless!These were the 7V models. They might be okay for a hunter but I could not tell if they were even on.No drain on the charging system, just your wallet.Maybe someone else has had better luck
Mike
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Despite the endless slippery marketing ploys, storing electrical energy in sufficient volume, within weight constraints is the stone wall.

Who remembers Jone-E hand warmers? Worked GREAT!!
 
I used to stuff hand warmers in my gloves and boots, even in my pockets. I still use them in work gloves when working outside in the cold. The 7 volt stuff is probably useful for its portability. My loader's 60 amp alternator was hardly working. Yeah, they're a little too much for the bike now but LEDs will free up the amperage I need.
I wonder how the police bikes handled tube radios, emergency lights and siren?
 
concours said:
Despite the endless slippery marketing ploys, storing electrical energy in sufficient volume, within weight constraints is the stone wall.

Who remembers Jone-E hand warmers? Worked GREAT!!
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Yea, nothing better than a live flame in your pocket! LOL
Surprised my parents got me some to take skiing, but it was the '60's
 

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