Buy parts in Great Britain after Brexit

[SteveA]

Failing to adhere to your own advice (also given out to Bernhard earlier) a tad there Steve!

I know, that is why I added the last line, maybe it didn't come over as I meant it! I will try.

 

[SteveA]

Is not my courrier.
The seller chosed.
Now we all we friends have asked to ship parcels in treshold with Royal Mail and not with courrier and they can do this for parcels under 2kg of weight.

Right now UK suppliers will be avoiding Royal Mail because delivery times have increased more with Royal Mail than others. This is what a couple have said to me.
This can change, I hope so, because Royal Mail tends to link with La Poste in France, who are the most reliable at finding our address!!

 

[SteveA]

Also, I'd suggest you check out the meaning of third world!

Amongst a lot of other guff about the origin of the term, the Wikipedia entry says:

'Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed-upon definition of the Third World'

Which I take as the freedom to give it any meaning I choose! And to vary its use as I choose

At least I won't shout things about France being 'Le troisième monde' in French to French customs/border guards when delayed going through Charles de Gaulle airport as a lady colleague did when we were travelling together a few years ago!

 

[SteveA]

Joe Seifert will need to make a british version of his web shop, in order to serve EU customers not familiar with german!

-Knut

Funny, I thought he had made it pretty clear why he won't be doing that!

 

[SteveA]

I disagree on it not getting better. It has to. The current situation is harming people and businesses and governments on both sides.

I commend your optimism, I rather think things will get a lot worse before they get better.

Whatever is happening with Article 16, invoking it isn't going to help anyone!

I am now going to (try to) treat this thread as if admin had locked it!

 

[Time Warp]

The Source arrived in the email box.

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Brexit A brief explanation regarding purchasing Norton spare parts from Andover Norton after the UK has left the EU. You will no longer pay UK Vat at 20% on your purchases. Depending on the value of any order you will be charged on entry: VAT, TVA, BTW etc.at the rate charged by your own country. Possibly Duty will be charged, again depending on the country of destination and value of order. Contact your local Customs for advice. Andover Norton declare the goods as Vintage Motorcycle Parts. Commodity Code: 87141000 Any Vat and any Duty payable is usually collected by the delivery agent acting as Tax Collectors for Customs entry and for this service an administration fee will also be payable.

 

[Madnorton]

I completely agree with you.
That's exactly what I think too.
I just wanted to object that under the 135 pound threshold, trade is duty free and couriers cannot ask for shipping fees or taxes.
Simple, right?.

This ends on the 1st July - for everyone, business or private individual sending to friend. Read the EU notices.

 

[pierodn]

The Source arrived in the email box.

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​ ​ Brexit A brief explanation regarding purchasing Norton spare parts from Andover Norton after the UK has left the EU. You will no longer pay UK Vat at 20% on your purchases. Depending on the value of any order you will be charged on entry: VAT, TVA, BTW etc.at the rate charged by your own country. Possibly Duty will be charged, again depending on the country of destination and value of order. Contact your local Customs for advice. Andover Norton declare the goods as Vintage Motorcycle Parts. Commodity Code: 87141000 Any Vat and any Duty payable is usually collected by the delivery agent acting as Tax Collectors for Customs entry and for this service an administration fee will also be payable.

This is clear and
no one can dispute it

 

[Madnorton]

The Source arrived in the email box.

"

​ ​ Brexit A brief explanation regarding purchasing Norton spare parts from Andover Norton after the UK has left the EU. You will no longer pay UK Vat at 20% on your purchases. Depending on the value of any order you will be charged on entry: VAT, TVA, BTW etc.at the rate charged by your own country. Possibly Duty will be charged, again depending on the country of destination and value of order. Contact your local Customs for advice. Andover Norton declare the goods as Vintage Motorcycle Parts. Commodity Code: 87141000 Any Vat and any Duty payable is usually collected by the delivery agent acting as Tax Collectors for Customs entry and for this service an administration fee will also be payable.

Correct, at the moment, but it seems some countires decided to charge entry and exit border charges to and from the UK, as Piero says - what the hell are they. Are these charges as well as duty and VAT added on a parcel from the USA, I doubt it.

I do not pay exit and entry border charges on Tri Spark, so why from the EU = profiteering of course.

 

[pierodn]

This ends on the 1st July - for everyone, business or private individual sending to friend. Read the EU notices.

I know, i agree.
But now is january!

 

[SteveA]

Correct, at the moment, but it seems some countires decided to charge entry and exit border charges to and from the UK, as Piero says - what the hell are they. Are these charges as well as duty and VAT added on a parcel from the USA, I doubt it.

I do not pay exit and entry border charges on Tri Spark, so why from the EU = profiteering of course.

I France those charges are added!

 

[SteveA]

This ends on the 1st July - for everyone, business or private individual sending to friend. Read the EU notices.

Do you have a link?

(i'm Gone!)

 

[pierodn]

Correct, at the moment, but it seems some countires decided to charge entry and exit border charges to and from the UK, as Piero says - what the hell are they. Are these charges as well as duty and VAT added on a parcel from the USA, I doubt it.

I do not pay exit and entry border charges on Tri Spark, so why from the EU = profiteering of course.

Not countries can charge with threshold!
Are the courriers that do it!

 

[Time Warp]

Correct, at the moment, but it seems some countires decided to charge entry and exit border charges to and from the UK, as Piero says - what the hell are they. Are these charges as well as duty and VAT added on a parcel from the USA, I doubt it.

I do not pay exit and entry border charges on Tri Spark, so why from the EU = profiteering of course.

It is probably still straight forward for the colonies.
Make your AN order, pay the non VAT total and it is at the door around 8 days later.

Time will tell (as far as possible future 10% GST here on arrival which out of AU sales (including NZ 15% GST Pazon etc) would not pay as we did not buying from the UK or EU)

(GST for us (AU) is now collected by overseas eBay so anything is possible)

 

[Fast Eddie]

I commend your optimism, I rather think things will get a lot worse before they get better.

Whatever is happening with Article 16, invoking it isn't going to help anyone!

I’m not that optimistic Steve... I agree with your first point unfortunately.

Ref your second point, a lot of what’s happened in recent days isn’t helping ANYONE !

 

[Madnorton]

Questions from someone who simply doesn't know the answers. I'm in the US, if I sell to someone in the UK or EU does the customer pay VAT and/or Duty to their country or the EU? If so, is it on the stated value in the customs forms I fill out in the US? Does it matter where the item(s) were produced?

Greg - Does it matter where the items are produced, Yes, very much so it seems, we have items in stock that are restricted and can only be sold to certain countries as per the US world police trade regulations. This may surprise some.

Country of origin is a new thing, does it matter, yes, as it can eliminate duty being paid twice or ensure it is collected where need be. If a part or stock is bought from the EU and then processed outside the EU, then duty will not be paid on it twice. I would imagine this will become a standard form for all global parcels.

Ad FE says, it will be a good thing. Effectively duties and VAT will be paid by the customer. I would imagine the global couriers, UPS, DHL etc will have accounts where they will collect the VAT (they do now) and as they ship parcels to and from two countries then the account will credit / debit accordingly as parcels go both ways with duty and VAT owed being paid on regular basis to whom it is owed - simple. With nearly every parcel in the world now tracked, the adding of duty and VAT is not a leap beyond mankind. Joe and Karl have invested heavily in monetary terms and their own time in updating the website and the courier integration of it, this was clearly needed, and for any company that wants to trade globally irrespective of where they are on the planet will no doubt end up doing the same. Sadly, some smaller retailers will not bother, parcels may still get through, but will take longer and may cost more.

If you send a present to a friend your are supposed to declare what it is and the value even now, these will still ship, but may need a pay before delivery in the recipients country - much like it is now.

The world has always traded and will continue to do so, the new systems coming will eventually be the norm and no one will bat an eyelid. In the meantime, if you are in the EU and you can't get your parcel out of your customs then complain to your MP or equivalent why AN can ship similar parcels door to door to the US in under 48 hours, but not in the EU it seems.

 

[Madnorton]

It is probably still straight forward for the colonies.
Make your AN, pay the non VAT total and it is at the door around 8 days later.

Time will tell (as far as possible future 10% GST here on arrival which out of AU sales (including NZ 15% GST Pazon etc) would not pay as we did not buying from the UK or EU)

(GST for us (AU) is now collected by overseas eBay so anything is possible)

How long, 8 days - I'd complain. Order on Monday and on my desk Friday morning!!!!

 

[Time Warp]

How long, 8 days - I'd complain. Order on Monday and on my desk Friday morning!!!!I

I had to edit in order (Make your AN order...)
I can't see anyone complaining (even in jest) about UK to AU in 8 days via DHL, my SRM PRV was around 2 weeks by standard mail.

You should complain though, you could shout your order from your desk ?

 

[Fast Eddie]

At least I won't shout things about France being 'Le troisième monde' in French to French customs/border guards when delayed going through Charles de Gaulle airport as a lady colleague did when we were travelling together a few years ago!

Steve, Charles de Gaulle airport IS bloody third world !

Anyway, my best French insult story is this:

A colleague was struggling like hell driving through Paris, getting honked at and shouted at left right, right and centre, quite justifiably to be fair. His stress levels started boiling over.

Then he gets into a particulalry heated exchange with another driver. And then they both end up side by side at some traffic lights. They wind there windows down and yell at each other in different languages for a few seconds until the English guy yells at the top of his voice:

“STOP”... “Do ... you ... speak ... English”

“Oui... a little” replies our Parisian friend.

“Good” replies the Englishman “NOW F*CK OFF” simultaneously brandishing a two finger salute.

At that, our Parisian friend burst out laughing !

 

[Fast Eddie]

I had to edit in order (Make your AN order...)
I can't see anyone complaining (even in jest) about UK to AU in 8 days via DHL, my SRM PRV was around 2 weeks by standard mail.

You should complain though, you could shout your order from your desk ?

That’s the problem with you Ozzies... you’ve forgotten how to have a good complain... (too much sun I reckon)...