Question about Brexit

[NPeteN]

But happy Thanksgiving to you too Frank!

I'm trying to get the Norton out for a trip to the grandparents but the weather ain't great and I've been drinking.

 

[Pushed it n rode it]

Fired mine up today and fumigated the shed, not much left alive in there. We need to export some of our rain to our Aussie relatives, they sure need it ! The Norton didn't go out needless to say.

 

[o0norton0o]

Funny I don't remember including the disclaimer "factoring in the population percentages of each race to the population recieving assistance"

I do remember saying "majority" which, by the numbers, whites ARE.

I don't own a television so no MSNBC. What I know about FOX I have learnt from FOX news viewers who are, in my experience, mostly misinformed.

It makes zero sense that you were saying most are white without implying there's no racial disparity, and it meaningless to compare each number because the white population is 6 times the black population, so why make a statement based on race if your point wasn't that there wasn't a racial disparity based on race? The fact that you say MOST are white implys that the disparity is racial, and whites as a group take advantage of those "benefits" more than other groups. IF that's not your point, then why mention "WHITES"??

... In reality the opposite of what you imply is true,... sadly. I be watchin' me some foxes newz, so anytime you want to debate a fact or the information rather than who said it, I'm here to set you straight.... Have I ever lied to you?? inspite of my verbosity?? lol

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Don't ride in the freezing cold, intoxicated, or any combination of them both... Enjoy the bird and the grandparents, and take an uber if your hammered....

 

[freddie1105]

It makes zero sense that you were saying most are white without implying there's no racial disparity, and it meaningless to compare each number because the white population is 6 times the black population, so why make a statement based on race if your point wasn't that there wasn't a racial disparity based on race? The fact that you say MOST are white implys that the disparity is racial, and whites as a group take advantage of those "benefits" more than other groups. IF that's not your point, then why mention "WHITES"??

... In reality the opposite of what you imply is true,... sadly. I be watchin' me some foxes newz, so anytime you want to debate a fact or the information rather than who said it, I'm here to set you straight.... Have I ever lied to you?? inspite of my verbosity?? lol

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Don't ride in the freezing cold, intoxicated, or any combination of them both... Enjoy the bird and the grandparents, and take an uber if your hammered....

preferred the old days myself. got wankered and rode everywhere. we were the only idiots on the road. fire by the lake at 1am. brilliant days

 

[freddie1105]

party fours and sevens lol

 

[Pushed it n rode it]

Went straight through the hedge into a field steaming drunk on my bantam, bike stalled, headlight fell out. Found a bullet connector had parted somehow in my challenged state. Fired it up, went back through the hedge and home. Work at 6 the next morning. Cannot condone any of it, but them were the days. 4 pints now and I can't even get up in the morning.

 

[freddie1105]

Went straight through the hedge into a field steaming drunk on my bantam, bike stalled, headlight fell out. Found a bullet connector had parted somehow in my challenged state. Fired it up, went back through the hedge and home. Work at 6 the next morning. Cannot condone any of it, but them were the days. 4 pints now and I can't even get up in the morning.

much the same. don't remember scotch being so strong back then

 

[Craig]

Problem here Craig is, he's all ready cost you $230,000 and now he's locked up it's going to cost you even more. My solution would be to drop him in Amsterdam without a parachute , then the only extra cost will be a funeral instead of another 230,000 Dutch Euros to keep the useless creature in the manner to which he's been accustomed.

After further reading our friend from Yemen via Netherlands may be up to something .... investagators have found 4-direct deposits to his bank account from our Fed. Gov. totaling $18,000 last month , then he sent $27,000 to a un-named man in the Netherlands via several wire transfers , and another $11,000 wire to someone in Germany ..... what is he up to ? .... a spy maybe , for who ?

 

[Bernhard]

So it was ok to pay hard working people lousy wages then ?

I never said that, so don’t put words into my mouth.

There is still the same situation today, poor people are hard up and living on the breadline going to food banks in order to eat, even nurses are doing it, while the higher paid hobnobs pay themselves even higher incomes that now have a even higher poor/rich ratio of only 25 years ago – so what’s changed?

 

[Bernhard]

If you are a wage earner, you have a different perspective from those who believe they have arrived. However the truth probably is that we are all programmed to comply. I worked in heavy engineering for many years and I realise that unions have a role to play. ISO9000 type international standards are based upon 'continual improvement' - without worker participation, achieving that becomes very difficult. Those standards are a fundamental part of globalisation. Hitler was able to run German industry without industrial democracy and so do the Chinese, but Hitler lost WW2. The industrial deaths and injuries in China are horrendous.

The difference between Hitler and the Chinese is that both have free slave labour to some extent.

 

[freddie1105]

Went straight through the hedge into a field steaming drunk on my bantam, bike stalled, headlight fell out. Found a bullet connector had parted somehow in my challenged state. Fired it up, went back through the hedge and home. Work at 6 the next morning. Cannot condone any of it, but them were the days. 4 pints now and I can't even get up in the morning.

I always found i'd sort things but for the life of me. couldn't remember how

 

[freddie1105]

The difference between Hitler and the Chinese is that both have free slave labour to some extent.

Hitler, Russians, Chinese? there is no difference at all. 20,000,000 killed by Stalin alone? Chinese under mao se tong? probably even more. All 3 shoulda gone in the pit with their after birth!!!!

 

[freddie1105]

as I spk. attack on London bridge. if he's white they will give a description. if he's muslim or black it will be more to follow! guaranteed.

 

[NPeteN]

It makes zero sense that you were saying most are white without implying there's no racial disparity, and it meaningless to compare each number because the white population is 6 times the black population, so why make a statement based on race if your point wasn't that there wasn't a racial disparity based on race? The fact that you say MOST are white implys that the disparity is racial, and whites as a group take advantage of those "benefits" more than other groups. IF that's not your point, then why mention "WHITES"??

... In reality the opposite of what you imply is true,... sadly. I be watchin' me some foxes newz, so anytime you want to debate a fact or the information rather than who said it, I'm here to set you straight.... Have I ever lied to you?? inspite of my verbosity?? lol

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Don't ride in the freezing cold, intoxicated, or any combination of them both... Enjoy the bird and the grandparents, and take an uber if your hammered....

The point is this, those same poor whites calling for a cut in gov benefits often live in rural communities completely dependent on gov. support. And will still vote for the man taking food off their table because "Mexicans!"

I've got nothing against poor people or white people, as I am both (poor by NYC standards at least). I just don't like to see people manipulated and scared into voting against their best interests.

Sorry for the digression, back to Brexit!


On a side note, 50 miles, 40 degrees and three Thanksgiving dinners on the Norton yesterday. Managed to stay sober enough throughout.

 

[trident sam]

I never said that, so don’t put words into my mouth.

There is still the same situation today, poor people are hard up and living on the breadline going to food banks in order to eat, even nurses are doing it, while the higher paid hobnobs pay themselves even higher incomes that now have a even higher poor/rich ratio of only 25 years ago – so what’s changed?

Yes you are right there, nothing has changed , corruption and greed always finds a way

 

[trident sam]

The point is this, those same poor whites calling for a cut in gov benefits often live in rural communities completely dependent on gov. support. And will still vote for the man taking food off their table because "Mexicans!"

I've got nothing against poor people or white people, as I am both (poor by NYC standards at least). I just don't like to see people manipulated and scared into voting against their best interests.

Sorry for the digression, back to Brexit!


On a side note, 50 miles, 40 degrees and three Thanksgiving dinners on the Norton yesterday. Managed to stay sober enough throughout.

Lovely bike !

 

[NPeteN]

as I spk. attack on London bridge. if he's white they will give a description. if he's muslim or black it will be more to follow! guaranteed.

Here is a video of the incident, warning for those who don't want to see a fella getting shot...
(Edit I have removed the link, didn't feel appropriate posting graphic footage)
Appears knife guy got the shit kicked out of him by a bunch of bystanders then shot...

 

[Craig]

In most conflicts, difference of opinions the world over ,for ever , follow the money almost always holds true .... not a new idea

 

[o0norton0o]

The point is this, those same poor whites calling for a cut in gov benefits often live in rural communities completely dependent on gov. support. And will still vote for the man taking food off their table because "Mexicans!"

I've got nothing against poor people or white people, as I am both (poor by NYC standards at least). I just don't like to see people manipulated and scared into voting against their best interests.

Well Pete, you can play the racism card all you want, in any way you want. The essence of the racism card as it's played in american politics lately is either to deny or to permit open borders. Whether the nation's system of social services and subsidised healthcare for their own poor people can withstand the influx of "any race of immigrants" by the millions who have an average education equal to the 9th grade in american schools. The average yearly incomes of many of the countries these people come from is around $5,000. which is less than an average suburban homeowner pays for his yearly property taxes, so these people have almost nothing, and aren't coming to a country where uneducated people have much chance of getting a decent paying job. There's no large manufacturing component to the economy like there was during previous waves of immigrants. These immigrants are coming because our social service hand outs are a better living than any job they can get in their home country...

Both the UK through Brexit and america through Trumps attempt to stem the flow of illegal immigration are fighting similar problems. They both have established complete economic systems with social services and a standard of living based on the value of their country's labor costs and their system of taxation. In the Uk's case, they can't allow an agency (The EU) outside their national economic system to dictate their economic policies. They feel they have to control their economic system from within in order to insure they make the best choices for their nation. In America's case, we can't extend the benefits of social services and our educational system to every person from every economically depressed country in the region. It's just not economically feasible.

Racism is the accusation that keeps the actual discussion of the cause and effects of policy choices from being discussed....

....... Your purple '70 is beautiful. That's the best picture of it you've posted so far.

 

[Pushed it n rode it]

Fancy a pint ? 40 degrees F. I presume. Too cold for me. Maybe good for that yellow water called king of beers . Budvar the original from Czech has beer in it. Woohoo !