Mallory track day

Thruxton R from MCN:
Performance

Max power 95.6 bhp
Max torque 82.6 ft-lb
Top speed 135 mph
1/4-mile acceleration -
Average fuel consumption 50 mpg
Tank range 150 miles

Commando 961 from MCN:
Performance
Max power 79 bhp
Max torque 66 ft-lb
Top speed 130 mph
1/4-mile acceleration -
Average fuel consumption 45 mpg
Tank range 205 miles
 
Tony, those number look about right if the fuel economy listed is in US gallons.

For top speed my Thrux hits the Rev limiter at 220 kmh (137 mph). I've checked the speedo against Gps and its very close.

Steve Parrish mentions that he hit the Rev limiter at 140 mph on the IOM straights.
Taller gearing is needed to up the top speed, but then acceleration in the gears is reduced and acceleration in the gears is the strong point of that bike.
The top Gear roll on is also very strong, 60-80 mph in 3 seconds which beats a 2010Aprillia rsv4 Factory.(3.1)
A top speed trial on roads is fun maybe once, if you get away with it. Acceleration is always fun . Hard acceleration out of the corners can be somewhat legally enjoyed for as long as you own the bike and can still throw a leg over it.

Glen
 
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Its from MCN so its not US Gallons. I am aware of the strong points of the Thruxton 1200. I had a 1996 Trident since new and still have a 2004 Thruxton. So I have had Hinckley Triumphs for more than 20 years . But on this forum Norton come first .
 
You posted the comparo??
Would you prefer zero response?


I can do that.

Glen
 
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Thruxton R from MCN:
Performance

Max power 95.6 bhp
Max torque 82.6 ft-lb
Top speed 135 mph
1/4-mile acceleration -
Average fuel consumption 50 mpg
Tank range 150 miles

Commando 961 from MCN:
Performance
Max power 79 bhp
Max torque 66 ft-lb
Top speed 130 mph
1/4-mile acceleration -
Average fuel consumption 45 mpg
Tank range 205 miles
Agree with all these numbers apart from tank range , thinking more 140 Miles, and as for 130/135 on either bike,I think I’d have to be cable tied to the bike for that, any bike over 100mph without a good fairing is hard work, I level off at legal speeds these days,& prefer some nice hard acceleration & noise ( from the short stubbies) thru the gears.
 
A group of us on various bikes just completed 2500 miles and found that by day six it was nice to get off to let the butt re-inflate every 60 miles or so, Touring BMW riders included.
On day 7 it was nice to get off and stay off!

Glen
 
You posted the comparo??
Would you prefer zero response?

I can do that.

Glen
The comparo was for a previous 961 owner who asked about the top speed earlier in the thread . Not trying to jab you.
 
Nigel,

What were you required to do to your 961 to get on-track?

Safety wire engine fluid drain plugs
Remove mirrors
Tape lights/turn signals/indicators
 
It varies track to track here, but in general, much more relaxed than proper race rules.

For Mallory all I had to do was zip tie the side stand, tape over the lights and remove the mirror (actually, mirrors were allowed, but I didn’t want the distraction... always focus on what in front on the track)!
 
Agree with all these numbers apart from tank range , thinking more 140 Miles, and as for 130/135 on either bike,I think I’d have to be cable tied to the bike for that, any bike over 100mph without a good fairing is hard work, I level off at legal speeds these days,& prefer some nice hard acceleration & noise ( from the short stubbies) thru the gears.
Tank range might be accurate but only for the alluminum tank (17 ltrs) not the OEM one (13.5 ltrs).
 
Hi Fast Eddie , What was the fastest speed you achieved at the track ?
 
Hi Tony, this might sound strange, especially to those who have never been on a track, but the answer is... I don’t know!

My brain is programmed to kinda constantly process the happenings around me, the guy in front, the braking, the turn ins, the revs and need for gear change etc, etc.

There’s a surprising amount going on really, especially when you consider that our wives like to tell us that we can’t multi task. I don’t have the band width to add speedometer checks into the equation I’m afraid !
 
Would you classify it as a "short track" (No long straights) ? I understand fully what you are saying . You are very brave to take your new and expensive bike out on the track.
 
I went to Germany (no speed limits on parts of autobahn) within warranty period to check max speed and engine endurance. GPS told me 200 km/h (125 mph) speedo showed about 130 mph...
 
Would you classify it as a "short track" (No long straights) ? I understand fully what you are saying . You are very brave to take your new and expensive bike out on the track.

I thinks it’s about 1.3 miles, so yes, it’s a short track. There were a lot of bikes out there more valuable than mine Tony!
 
I thinks it’s about 1.3 miles, so yes, it’s a short track. There were a lot of bikes out there more valuable than mine Tony!

I have never been on a track on two wheels (powered) before and am toying with the idea so I would appreciate and basic advice which is probably obvious to you;

Are you allowed zipped leathers rather than leather romper suit?
How much wear does it put on the tyres?
Would there be a problem with noise level from the open pipes?
If someone stoves into you is it basically your loss?

If enough interest we might have a new thread here.....
 
I have never been on a track on two wheels (powered) before and am toying with the idea so I would appreciate and basic advice which is probably obvious to you;

Are you allowed zipped leathers rather than leather romper suit?
How much wear does it put on the tyres?
Would there be a problem with noise level from the open pipes?
If someone stoves into you is it basically your loss?

If enough interest we might have a new thread here.....

Hi Clive,
1. Yes, two piece zip together leathers are accepted for track days.
2. Not much wear. Most road wear is in the middle. Most track wear is on the edges. So highly unlikely to really reduce tyre life, unless you become a track regular and start ripping 'em up!
3. Noise depends on the circuits, but in general the answer is yes. More and more UK circuits are becoming more and more sensitive to noise. Fortunately, changing our pipes is so easy, I just take my stock silencers along in the van in case I need them.
4. Some insurance polices actually cover you for track use. I think Carol Nash is one such company.

Its best to choose an event where 961s would be more a part of the overall ethos. If you go on a 'No Limits' track day for your first time and end up in a pack of R1s all using tyre warmers etc, it can be intimidating to some.

Actually, my personal advice to anyone wanting to go on the track for the first ever time is to go to a race school. Mallory, Donnington, Cadwell all do this. You hire the bike, helmet, leathers and have expert tuition. The aim isn't to threaten Rossi, its to gain confidence, and it achieves this very well IMHO.

I hope you do it. It is GREAT fun. And although you're only going round and around, it is strangely, but greatly, liberating. To be freed from speed limits, cameras, traffic, morons on the phones at the wheel, etc, etc is just fabulous.

And it really would be great to see more 961s out there flying the flag !!
 
Thanks Nigel
I think you're right - at a controlled race school there would be less chance of having a bad experience and being put off (both figuratively and literally!). If still keen then take the 961 to a carefully selected track day.

Any recommendations in the region of Middle England guys? Ron Haslam?
 
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