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Zard 2-1 exhaust

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by GKRyder, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. GKRyder

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  2. Fast Eddie

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    Zard make good gear. Perhaps a tad 'avant gade' for some however.

    I think what they've done on the Norton looks awesome and I would bet it sounds even better.

    I'd have one right now... If I wasn't lacking a 961 to bolt it onto...
     
  3. TonyA

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    I like it a lot . The chain looks like it has good clearance . I like the Removable DB Killer option and the colorful weld seams . The big plus is it is available right now for those willing to pay. The fact that it is made in Italy is just cream on top . The Norton Aftermarket Maps should work good as well with this system.
     
  4. GKRyder

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    Have asked Moto why they state SE model.
    Could be because of not supporting passenger brackets with that setup?

    Will post if I get a response.
     
  5. TonyA

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    This is what I think . They stated SE because that's what they had when they developed the exhaust system. Lets be realistic about this. Norton have made just over 2000 , 961"s . That's not a great amount of bikes , and these have to spread across the globe. That's one months production at Triumph . Or is it one weeks production ??
     
  6. Raphi

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    Chain may have a good clearance but probably at the expense of ground clearance in right hand corners...
     
  7. TonyA

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    Yes , that may be true . But maybe still better than the Motad short/loud I currently have ? Ever tried to raise the rear ride height ? I read there is 15 mm of adjustment in the shocks.
     
  8. Raphi

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    Yes, but my dealer said it is not possible to raise more than it is now...
    The SBN pipes I have now seem to have enough ground clearance.
     
  9. BritTwit

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    Tony,

    If you raise the rear ride height, the drive chain will contact the lower frame support bracket that the exhaust support bolts to.
    I also thought that raising the rear height would improve the overall chassis geometry, but found that there was a problem with chain clearance.
    it's an unfortunate design oversight.
    Norton should have found a better way of attaching the footpegs and exhaust to the frame.
     
  10. TonyA

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    Hello BritTwit , I understand what you are saying and that makes sense. Is it possible that the chain slider upgrade was designed to resolve this for us ? The chain will contact the slider shoe (bushing) and can be replaced when needed ? The chain contacting the muffler may be another problem , at least with the system I have .
     
  11. Britfan60

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    I've never had a rubbing problem. My pipe on the chain side was mounted a little lower (maybe a half inch). It may look a little odd if you're really looking hard enough, but it works. My friend pointed it out to me when he was following home one day. Sure enough, its lower.
     
  12. SkeletonCycles

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    I just want to throw this out there.

    For the cost of those pipes, you could buy a Miller Tig Welder (granted $1500 for a nice used one) and build a set yourself. I would rather spend the money on something I can use time and time again down the road rather than spend that much on pipes. Let's say it takes you 3 or 4 attempts at really dialing in your own pipes. The material and the welder add up to what you would pay to but that set of pipes. I understand there are some dynamics to air flow and such, but you have only so many angles to get the pipes to fit correctly. Do it yourself and take pride in it.
     
  13. Fast Eddie

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    Not everyone can, or wants to, make everything themselves. If you can, then why not go one better... don't make one set... make several... and sell them to those who can't !!
     
  14. BritTwit

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    As remote as this possibility may be for me personally, I would love to do this.
    However, not having much in the way of welding skills, and not currently possessing a pipe mandrel or pipe flaring tool, it’s not likely that I will be building my own pipes.

    I did hit on a solution last year at the NYC IMS. I found a builder located in NYC who designs and builds stainless exhaust for Harley drag bikes.
    We spoke for a while about my 961 and the problems I have with the SBN exhaust.
    He agreed that it would be possible, actually simple, for him to modify the system for better fit and chain clearance.
    His drag systems are all built from stainless so that would be no problem.

    The problem is this guy is super busy with his normal builds that he really has no time for my tiny redesign job.
    I’ll check later this autumn to see if I can schedule some time at his shop.
    I’m not looking for maximum HP.
    Just an attractive 2-into-1-into-2 system with reasonable cornering clearance, and no chain rubbing issues.
    I want to retain the Dominator silencers too.
     
  15. Asad

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    Nice rumble with the db killer in place but seems a little too quiet for my taste.


    Video does not give a great idea of how loud this is but when I compare to other videos of dominator megaphones, I think the domi megaphones would be the louder setup. Although at highway speeds I think the cars I'm passing are not very happy with my noise pollution.
     
  16. Fast Eddie

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    Nice. And I know which one I prefer !

    You just need to do something about the unused LHS exhaust hanger now I guess?
     
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  17. TonyA

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    Hello Asad , Do you have access to the oil drain plug without removing the pipes ?
     
  18. Asad

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    TonyA, I tried but looks like pipe has to be removed. Might be able to fabricate a wrench specifically for this though. Will let you know if I find a solution.
     
  19. TonyA

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    Hello Asad , you may be able to replace the OEM Norton drain plug with a nice hex head drain plug . Then you can access from the side with a open end wrench ?
     
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  20. Asad

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    I think that would work.
     
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