What's happening at Norton? Sale to TVS, massive investment, new bikes...

Bevelheadmhr said:
The main reason for the Triumph 400 and similar bikes from RE, BSA, Honda etc, is they are all A2 compliant. An important point in Europe and beyond. No doubt the new Norton 450 twin will also fit in this category.

As for the 961 being owned by a Chinese company, can anyone show proof of this? I've never seen any.
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It wasnt the 961 it was the engine
 
TonyA said:
This is hard to believe , this was only 5 years ago ! For all we know , they are making the 961 parts for TVS Norton now ! That's why I say TVS stay out of the way !
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If you honestly believe what you see in this picture , you are one of the many who got taken in by the b*st*rd on the right and the other one looks like the bloke down the road who runs our chippie.
'Jinlang' sounds like the noise my Sport made when the starter ring gear fell off , luckily at the traffic lights. ⚙️
 
We all thought that the 961 was dead after the TVS takeover. But Dr. Bob (Hentschel) surprised every one when he said that the new Norton company had decided to manufacture new "re-engineered" 961s. Ostensibly, to satisfy the 40 or so folks who put down deposits on bikes before the Donington company was rolled up. He also indicated that Norton had to pay a royalty to Jinlang for each engine they manufactured. There is no way that Norton would want to continue that kind of relationship going forward for very long.

It's been 6 years since Jinlang bought the rights to the 961 engine, we haven't seen any Chinese 961s, so I would imagine that Jinlang don't really see a market for it. And no market for spares either.
 
BritTwit said:
We all thought that the 961 was dead after the TVS takeover. But Dr. Bob (Hentschel) surprised every one when he said that the new Norton company had decided to manufacture new "re-engineered" 961s. Ostensibly, to satisfy the 40 or so folks who put down deposits on bikes before the Donington company was rolled up. He also indicated that Norton had to pay a royalty to Jinlang for each engine they manufactured. There is no way that Norton would want to continue that kind of relationship going forward for very long.

It's been 6 years since Jinlang bought the rights to the 961 engine, we haven't seen any Chinese 961s, so I would imagine that Jinlang don't really see a market for it. And no market for spares either.
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I don’t know this . But is it possible that Jinlang is making the engine parts that TVS Norton is using now ? Someone is making them , not made at Solihul .
 
peebee said:
If you honestly believe what you see in this picture , you are one of the many who got taken in by the b*st*rd on the right and the other one looks like the bloke down the road who runs our chippie.
'Jinlang' sounds like the noise my Sport made when the starter ring gear fell off , luckily at the traffic lights. ⚙️
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That’s funny. . But who do you think makes the 961 parts now ? Someone in Asia of course.
 
There are a lot of factories in a Asia that doesn't mean Mr Jinlang has anything to do with it. They could be being made in Malaysia along side Triumph parts. If that article is true I wouldn't believe it until I saw concrete evidence in writing that it is so. If I saw a picture of Santa Clause, or Jesus or a alien from another planet that would make me sceptical too because I'm that sort of person. 😁
 
TonyA said:
I don’t know this . But is it possible that Jinlang is making the engine parts that TVS Norton is using now ? Someone is making them , not made at Solihul .
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Tony,
Could be that TVS/Norton is sourcing from same folks who made them for Garner in Taiwan.
But whatever the source, it's just curious that there is no Jinlang 961 yet.
If I paid a few millions for the rights, I sure as hell would want to make some money from it.
 
BritTwit said:
Tony,
Could be that TVS/Norton is sourcing from same folks who made them for Garner in Taiwan.
But whatever the source, it's just curious that there is no Jinlang 961 yet.
If I paid a few millions for the rights, I sure as hell would want to make some money from it.
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I agree.
 
peebee said:
There are a lot of factories in a Asia that doesn't mean Mr Jinlang has anything to do with it. They could be being made in Malaysia along side Triumph parts. If that article is true I wouldn't believe it until I saw concrete evidence in writing that it is so. If I saw a picture of Santa Clause, or Jesus or a alien from another planet that would make me sceptical too because I'm that sort of person. 😁
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Ok. I guess it doesn’t matter after all.
 
peebee said:
There are a lot of factories in a Asia that doesn't mean Mr Jinlang has anything to do with it. They could be being made in Malaysia along side Triumph parts. If that article is true I wouldn't believe it until I saw concrete evidence in writing that it is so. If I saw a picture of Santa Clause, or Jesus or a alien from another planet that would make me sceptical too because I'm that sort of person. 😁
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Wow the list of tin foil hat wearing people is growing. What does Malaysia have to do with the 961 engine? If TVS did own the rights(bought them back) they would make it either in England with the original suppliers or India with new Asian suppliers. The terms that have been discussed were that TVS will pay Jinlang a royalty for every engine and that Jinlang will manufacture parts for TVS. I think what took place is they (TVS) figured out they had enough parts(and engines) for X amount of motorcycles, and that's what they began to produce, knowing that they wouldn't be selling through, and it was only a placeholder. They then only ordered what extra parts were needed for spares etc
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
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I am referring to #1326! 👍

Also think the focus on spares is a bit overblown. Solihull bikes will no doubt be supported well beyond the end of their warranty periods.

We legacy owners will always be the lowest priority, but we’re certainly better off with 2500 or so new 961’s in circulation.

No doubt spares will continue to trickle through, as they have this far. Self help, alternate parts, this forum and ingenuity should pick up the slack as it’s done thus far.

I just don’t see owners on FB or this forum reporting their bikes are off the road due to a lack of spares. The situation could be better of course, but it could certainly be a whole lot worse for legacy owners. Overly optimistic? I don’t think so.
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Show me dominator parts. Are you going to tell me when TVS bought Norton, that they didn’t have any Domi parts? I know for a fact they did, they told me they did. Instead they threw them out.
 
peebee said:
If you honestly believe what you see in this picture , you are one of the many who got taken in by the b*st*rd on the right and the other one looks like the bloke down the road who runs our chippie.
'Jinlang' sounds like the noise my Sport made when the starter ring gear fell off , luckily at the traffic lights. ⚙️
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Yeah it’s all just a fake news lie huh. It’s not a lie, it’s a fact he sold to jinlang.
 
peebee said:
There are a lot of factories in an Asia that doesn't mean Mr Jinlang has anything to do with it. They could be being made in Malaysia along side Triumph parts. If that article is true I wouldn't believe it until I saw concrete evidence in writing that it is so. If I saw a picture of Santa Clause, or Jesus or an alien from another planet that would make me sceptical too because I'm that sort of person. 😁
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Doesn’t matter who makes them. They’re not available.
 


Norton’s “Electra” Trademark In India Might Spark a Small Bike Renaissance​

Born in 1898, Norton was a racing legend, winning the Isle of Man TT a jaw-dropping 94 times and building icons like the Commando and the Manx. For decades, the brand stood for speed, style, and British engineering at its finest.
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Triumph's 400cc offerings have proven that retro works perfectly well with small displacement engines.

What it does suggest is that Norton and TVS are gearing up to play in the booming small-displacement segment. Bikes like the Triumph Speed 400, KTM 390 Duke, CFMoto 450NK, and Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 have proven there's a big appetite for lightweight, high-quality bikes that are fun, affordable, and global in appeal.

Norton Electra Nameplate Revived: Possibly For New 400cc Bike

Trademark filings from India have revealed the British brand is set to announce a model called the Norton Electra.
www.visordown.com www.visordown.com

New TVS 450cc Twin Confirmed: Set to Power BMW F450 GS and Future Norton Models

Word of TVS’ new 450 engine has broken, and it’ll likely find its way into the new BMW 450 GS, and future Norton models
www.visordown.com www.visordown.com

norton 450 electra

BMW F 450 GS
 
74ok said:


Norton’s “Electra” Trademark In India Might Spark a Small Bike Renaissance​

Born in 1898, Norton was a racing legend, winning the Isle of Man TT a jaw-dropping 94 times and building icons like the Commando and the Manx. For decades, the brand stood for speed, style, and British engineering at its finest.
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Triumph's 400cc offerings have proven that retro works perfectly well with small displacement engines.

What it does suggest is that Norton and TVS are gearing up to play in the booming small-displacement segment. Bikes like the Triumph Speed 400, KTM 390 Duke, CFMoto 450NK, and Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 have proven there's a big appetite for lightweight, high-quality bikes that are fun, affordable, and global in appeal.

Norton Electra Nameplate Revived: Possibly For New 400cc Bike

Trademark filings from India have revealed the British brand is set to announce a model called the Norton Electra.
www.visordown.com www.visordown.com

New TVS 450cc Twin Confirmed: Set to Power BMW F450 GS and Future Norton Models

Word of TVS’ new 450 engine has broken, and it’ll likely find its way into the new BMW 450 GS, and future Norton models
www.visordown.com www.visordown.com

norton 450 electra

BMW F 450 GS
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So gross. Glad I ordered a V4 RS Ducati.
 
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