What do you think about E-bike? just a question.

Hey guys, i am new to this forum, i have JAWA 42 nebula blue, i just bought it 2 years back, i also he had revolt as an side option, but at that time E-bike was not so much common, but from the last year E-bikes are so common to look at, but they dont give the same bike feel as my jawa, will E-bike surpass Motorcycles what is your view on it?

h01 said:

Hey guys, i am new to this forum, i have JAWA 42 nebula blue, i just bought it 2 years back, i also he had revolt as an side option, but at that time E-bike was not so much common, but from the last year E-bikes are so common to look at, but they dont give the same bike feel as my jawa, will E-bike surpass Motorcycles what is your view on it?

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Not sure if this is a genuine question
But yes electric bikes certainly have a future
The same as electric cars
It's a long way off at the moment that's for sure

Do you mean electric motorcycles or electric bicycles?

I doubt you could get me interested in an electric motorcycles but electric bicycles are great.

Several bike friends own them and they are great for exploring countryside and heading down to the shops. Having said that I don't have one because firstly they are so expensive. I think the sellers are taking the p**** with the pricing. Selling to people who think they are trendy and hip. Secondly I'm still a bit worried about fires while charging. Don't want that happening in my shed thanks.

I used to race a classic bike a few years ago and a really top rider who rode my bike has now moved on to e bicycles for trials riding with his kids. He's having a ball.

In NZ anyway there are lots of people who do motorcycle racing and mountain biking. When you get a bit older an electric motor on the mountain bike is perfect.

I try to avoid thinking about electric vehicles. Many people can only drive automatic cars. My car is a Mazda 6 which has a 6 speed close ratio gearbox. If I get in the shit with it at high speed, I can actually drive it. The average car driver in Australia has never had their car swap ends at 60 MPH. - If it happens and it can, they are stuffed

It will be a very sad day when all the fun things in life are designed to cater for people who are robots.

acotrel said:

It will be a very sad day when all the fun things in life are designed to cater for people who are robots.

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It's going that way quickly Al

One of the things which disappointed me the last time I raced, was I could not hear my bike from the spectator area. My wife was standing there with my mate. I must ask her what it sounded like. When it is being raced, it always stays between 5,500 RPM and 7000 RPM, and my 2 into 1 exhaust system is loud.

Artificial Intelligence will be real fun. I worked with mini-computers in the 1970s making hiogh strength steel for gun barrels. WE ended up with two large data sets 0ne of chemical composition and heat treastments, the other was the related physical propeties. My boss used to adjust the composition ofv each heat by inspecting the two data sets. He did not know anything about computers or pattern recognition. In those days I always kept myself up to date, but because my boss was a self-confessed genius, I would not tell him anything. One day he came to see what I did for a living. He stood there for a few minutes watching the computerv doing it's thing and said 'I know what I do not want to know', and he fled. Butb later he asctually took the trouble to thank me for the work I did. However he did not really know what was involved. What once took two weeks of hard slog became a push of a button and 27 seconds.
I was really stupid. When I was there, I did not know I could have had a billet crank made as a legitimate job, and the price would have been almost zero.

Pattern recognition can provide a better way of determining cause and effect. When you road race a motorcycle, the data is multivariate, cause and effect are a pattern. My mate owns Motec. His engine management systems can log data from all over a superbike. When we race we usually only change one thing at a time. But often an improvement depends on changing a few things at once.
What we are looking at is the relationship between two data sets.

Try driving a E car or E bike across Australia from east to west, once you cross West Australia boarder and Nullarbor Plain long straight road and the distant between fuel stops some over 500km or more even motorcycles have to carry spare fuel to make each stop, full E cars or bikes be in trouble and will those fuel stops outback be set up for recharge stations as most place have their own power generators to operate as really there is nothing out there but open space.
Even trains travelling cross country and the Nullarbor have to stop for fuel out in the middle of nowhere all fuel shipped in by fuel trains.
Our distants are vast and remote OS travellers just have no idea and many have been caught out and lost their lives travelling our great country, till they make E vehicles that can do long distances we are stuck with what we got and still a long way off, all good in our cities but no good for outback travels.

Ashley

ashman said:

Try driving a E car or E bike across Australia from east to west, once you cross West Australia boarder and Nullarbor Plain long straight road and the distant between fuel stops some over 500km or more even motorcycles have to carry spare fuel to make each stop, full E cars or bikes be in trouble and will those fuel stops outback be set up for recharge stations as most place have their own power generators to operate as really there is nothing out there but open space.
Even trains travelling cross country and the Nullarbor have to stop for fuel out in the middle of nowhere all fuel shipped in by fuel trains.
Our distants are vast and remote OS travellers just have no idea and many have been caught out and lost their lives travelling our great country, till they make E vehicles that can do long distances we are stuck with what we got and still a long way off, all good in our cities but no good for outback travels.

Ashley

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Ashley that’s a great example of exactly why EVs cannot be the ONLY transport solution mandated on us in the near future !

The idea has simply not been fully thought through.

Well, I’ll say it…

I like E bicycles.

(We’re talking electric bicycles here, not motorcycles).

Some of them are great fun, surprisingly fast, and plenty of range for ‘around town’ use or fun in the woods etc.

The big downside for me is road safety. Other road users simply are not used to computing bicycles as travelling at 25mph… up hill… with the rider hardly peddling.

It’s even worse with illegal e scooters. I saw a kid the other day here in Oxford, must have been doing close to 30mph… in the pissing rain… dressed in black… one feeble little light on the front, about 6 inches from the ground… riding along in the gutter of the road. Any car driver pulling out of a junction would almost certainly not have seen him, and registered the speed.

So… E bicycles are a great short distance travel solution, and great fun… just be prepared to accept high casualties…

When I worked at the Honda store we were a Zero dealer. I can see, in the future, all sport bikes will be electric. The power delivery is amazing and the torque is fantastic. The range and the tech is just not there for the kind of money they want for these bikes.

I was recently in Austin Texas where they have E scooters that can be activated by an app on your phone. From what I saw the emergency rooms must have forms that are pre-printed for the injuries generated by these devices.