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84ok said:
apparently a mind reader

https://www.accessnorton.com/NortonCommando/famous-family-feud.24693/
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Huh, you seem to have confused a lively discussion comparing bikes with the very different one at hand that regards one helping out with paying their way for a forum/service, or not.

A forum that would not even be available to your synical bluster if not for the “builder” of the forum/site and those willing to help out.

Some are comfortable with letting others do it for them while looking down at those around them with some assumed air of seniority because of their accumulated freeload time.

But I'm just a newcomer to the forum, to be looked down upon judging from your writings.
But you, along with all your support, and 9 posts in this thread alone, have been here since 2014....impressive indeed.
 
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"syndical bluster"!
now there is an obtuse putdown...

think we have seen enuf of this thread. move or close?
 
tomspro said:
"syndical bluster"!
now there is an obtuse putdown...

think we have seen enuf of this thread. move or close?
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Normally don’t let myself get dragged into this sort of banter.

Apologies.

Good call, going nowhere.
 
It takes a special kind of person to start a thread (on an otherwise collegial, friendly and supportive PUBLIC forum) whose sole purpose is to single out other members and call them names like "freeloader" and "tightwads"... yup, that's what happening here. That's a lot of self-aggrandizing and winging over a simple little avatar tag.

I guess this is the "us" vs "them" norton board now... congrats fellas, enjoy your backslapping.

I'm done with this thread that should never have been allowed to continue this long.
 
acadian said:
It takes a special kind of person to start a thread (on an otherwise collegial, friendly and supportive PUBLIC forum) whose sole purpose is to single out other members and call them names like "freeloader" and "tightwads"... yup, that's what happening here. That's a lot of self-aggrandizing and winging over a simple little avatar tag.

I guess this is the "us" vs "them" norton board now... congrats fellas, enjoy your backslapping.

I'm done with this thread that should never have been allowed to continue this long.
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Here's the original post. Sure as heck don't see any accusations or finger pointing or name calling. Amazing how some things morph.

Just curious why there are so many regulars on this forum who are not VIP members. $39 USD for a years worth of information and entertainment seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Just my thoughts.
 
I will admit to name calling , I referred to myself as a freeloader for first 10 yrs or more ,just in this past year I ponied up ..... I also thanked everyone for making this forum possible ... .... just in this past 18 months or so , I have noticed a “nasty streak” maybe too strong but you all know what I mean ... still can’t believe our most prolific poster has been chased for no good reason .... and there is still a bit of an edge in some of the posts and this like I say is new , been watching this since it started and I always liked the vibe until recently , not sure what happening ... old sayin around where I live goes like “ say what you mean , mean what you say “ lot of comments these days I just don’t get ..... maybe I too old and have been left behind , sure hope not ..... let’s just all agree to carry on with more good natured posts
Craig
 
eskasteve said:
Here's the original post. Sure as heck don't see any accusations or finger pointing or name calling. Amazing how some things morph.

Just curious why there are so many regulars on this forum who are not VIP members. $39 USD for a years worth of information and entertainment seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Just my thoughts.
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eskasteve said:
Not worried about it. I'm just curious about human nature.
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curious about human nature has what to do with/in a norton commando forum section about a bike?

then some big fish chimed in the topic was in a good place for it & lotsa vets had plenty more to say,

wouldn't worry about it tho, likely to go elsewhere or the pub
 
apparently a mind reader was for you & your prior post, this one
Lineslinger said:
84ok...Your cynicism is clear, your sarcasm not so much.
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oh sure i seem confused lol
Lineslinger said:
Huh, you seem to have confused a lively discussion comparing bikes with the very different one at hand that regards one helping out with paying their way for a forum/service, or not.

A forum that would not even be available to your synical bluster if not for the “builder” of the forum/site and those willing to help out.

Some are comfortable with letting others do it for them while looking down at those around them with some assumed air of seniority because of their accumulated freeload time.

But I'm just a newcomer to the forum, to be looked down upon judging from your writings.
But you, along with all your support, and 9 posts in this thread alone, have been here since 2014....impressive indeed.
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i'm also done with the thread being here
 
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Gents,

Seems to me that ‘both sides’ have made their case.

Jerry has also made his in making it clear he wishes no pressure on anyone either way.

I would suggest there is nothing more left to say or debate. You are now only arguing and nit picking each other’s words. No possible value can come from continuing any further in this way.
 
Fast Eddie said:
Gents,

Seems to me that ‘both sides’ have made their case.

Jerry has also made his in making it clear he wishes no pressure on anyone either way.

I would suggest there is nothing more left to say or debate. You are now only arguing and nit picking each other’s words. No possible value can come from continuing any further in this way.
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Thank you Fast Eddie, for when I go to the Pub I like to drink and reminisce, not get drunk and forget!!!
 
Nortim said:
I don't know if it's possible, but here's a VIP perk I'd probably sign up for: an online, well-organized database of quality workshop manuals and riders manuals, preferably printable. I've found them on various sites but they're not always the best scans, or printable, and they're certainly not organized.
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This feature exists now. And it is available to everybody. It is in the Technical Section in the sticky threads at the top of the first page in this section of the forum. And it is there for free, to everyone who wants to use it because the forum exists. I will continue to support the forum because I benefit from it.

As for the rest of this bullshit, I'm pretty disappointed. I see I have gotten labeled as a "classist" because I made a remark that should be easy to identify as sarcasm. Why are people on this forum so prone to offense and outrage over bullshit? I don't bother to post much here these days because I really get tired of all the personal attacks. Thus my smart ass remark about a two tier system. I did NOT donate to the support of this forum to get a banner under my name and would be content to be anonymous.

I think the banners should come down. I don't know how Jerry can successfully run this web site without donations but there has to be a better way to let users of the forum know the option exists. Maybe just a donate button that gets in your way once in a while. Like maybe it should pop up and need to be ignored when you try to post a comment.

Have a good day. Chill out. There are things in the world worth being outraged over. This isn't one of them.
 
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Craig said:
I will admit to name calling , I referred to myself as a freeloader for first 10 yrs or more ,just in this past year I ponied up ..... I also thanked everyone for making this forum possible ... .... just in this past 18 months or so , I have noticed a “nasty streak” maybe too strong but you all know what I mean ... still can’t believe our most prolific poster has been chased for no good reason .... and there is still a bit of an edge in some of the posts and this like I say is new , been watching this since it started and I always liked the vibe until recently , not sure what happening ... old sayin around where I live goes like “ say what you mean , mean what you say “ lot of comments these days I just don’t get ..... maybe I too old and have been left behind , sure hope not ..... let’s just all agree to carry on with more good natured posts
Craig
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I agree it has changed, and yes this topic should be shut down. People are not going to change for these reasons.
 
I'm a newcomer (not sure when I originaly joined but it must have been over ayear ago, when I was hoping to become a Norton owner again). I still don't have another Norton unfortunately, but I was Googling something about Premier carbs and this forum came up - I'd forgotten i was even a member! Since then I've been looking in frequently, and before I even saw this thread I was thinking about posting something to say how impressed I am with it.

This forum seems to have a lot LESS of the childish squabbling that tends to take over most other forums. Not only that but it is far more heavily used - many replies per day, and quite a number of new posts too. And furthermore, the QUALITY of the posts & comments is extremely high: people on here clearly know what they're talking about, yet aren't patronising or superior in their attitudes when it comes to responding to questions - again, very much unlike several other british bike forums I'm involved in.

I do hope it stays this way. This particular thread seems to have drawn out a surprising (by Access Norton forum's standards) amount of vitriol. I didn't even detect that there was any to be drawn out until now, hence my surprise. I hope it calms down again and gets forgotten. Thanks to Jerry (I have no idea who you are and only learned you're the person behind this forum through reading this thread) - you have built a fantastic resource for not only Norton enthusiasts but also enthusiasts for all other makes of British bikes, and if I do ever manage to get my hands on a Norton, I'll be making a donation at the least. Meanwhile, thanks for letting people like me have free access.
 
Wow! I sure didn't expect such caustic responses to what was really just an innocent query. I didn't mean to open up this can of worms. The amount cranky people on here really surprised me. Sorry. Maybe all of you grumpypants should just grab your blankies and go have a nap.
 
To paraphrase the guy who started this thread: "Just curious why there are so many VIP members on this list who think because they pay $39 USD for a years worth of information and entertainment, they have the right to pass judgement on everybody else.
Just my thoughts."

Stephen Hill
 
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eskasteve
Wow! I sure didn't expect such caustic responses to what was really just an innocent query. I didn't mean to open up this can of worms. The amount cranky people on here really surprised me. Sorry. Maybe all of you grumpypants should just grab your blankies and go have a nap.[/QUOTE]

Nice piece of self righteous faux surprise there, unfortunately your smug post shows you knew exactly what you were stirring up and sadly, appear to be quietly fulfilled in doing so.
Well this comment seems to apply to all members so at least we now know not to take you seriously and can carry on helping members who have genuine queries rather than waste time on some boring old fart who has nothing better to do.
 
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