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It sounds like an SOB w/o a title.
I'm in law enforcement in Penna.
1981 all autos became standardized 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers (Hence VIN).
Formally they were 13 or 14 digits I can't remember.
Motorcycles were non conforming and may have come into line at a later time.
My 1995 Harley is a 17 digit Vin number.
I believe the standardization was mandated due to auto thefts which increased dramatically in the 1980's.
When I worked at General Motors in the 1980's now called Government Motors, The vin told the story of the car.
IE..... 1 = Chevrolet Division, 3 Oldsmobile Division etc...
Next digit was last year of manufacture ie.... 7 = 1967.
next was the body style ie.... 44 = 442.
next was the production run ie.... 2314567 this was the number that car was off the assy line.
On the fire wall was a protecto plate whch gave the building plant Lansing, or Flint etc....
Interior trim code, paint code, month and week it was built during year can not tell exact day but weeks were specified.
If it was a crappy car it typically was refered to as a Monday car cause everybody was hung over still.
Motorcycles never received this type of attention to detail till much later.
General Motors did not do this for the benefit of the collector some 30 + years later but for their own recording purpose.
Just a little Mr Good wrench for every one.
I know I'm buying every thing with a title as it gets kinda sketchy in this post 911 world trying to get things documented w/o prior
documention. It is just gettin tougher thats all.
Best O luck RS and let us know when it comes through titled
Marshal
I'm in law enforcement in Penna.
1981 all autos became standardized 17 digit Vehicle Identification Numbers (Hence VIN).
Formally they were 13 or 14 digits I can't remember.
Motorcycles were non conforming and may have come into line at a later time.
My 1995 Harley is a 17 digit Vin number.
I believe the standardization was mandated due to auto thefts which increased dramatically in the 1980's.
When I worked at General Motors in the 1980's now called Government Motors, The vin told the story of the car.
IE..... 1 = Chevrolet Division, 3 Oldsmobile Division etc...
Next digit was last year of manufacture ie.... 7 = 1967.
next was the body style ie.... 44 = 442.
next was the production run ie.... 2314567 this was the number that car was off the assy line.
On the fire wall was a protecto plate whch gave the building plant Lansing, or Flint etc....
Interior trim code, paint code, month and week it was built during year can not tell exact day but weeks were specified.
If it was a crappy car it typically was refered to as a Monday car cause everybody was hung over still.
Motorcycles never received this type of attention to detail till much later.
General Motors did not do this for the benefit of the collector some 30 + years later but for their own recording purpose.
Just a little Mr Good wrench for every one.
I know I'm buying every thing with a title as it gets kinda sketchy in this post 911 world trying to get things documented w/o prior
documention. It is just gettin tougher thats all.
Best O luck RS and let us know when it comes through titled
Marshal