Velocity Stacks & Pilot Jet Issues?

The Commando in the Henshaw videos is clean. Too bad it sounds like an underpowered rototiller running in a field of rocks. Too harsh? 🤣
He's a better mechanic/engineer than he is a sound engineer for sure 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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He's a better mechanic/engineer than he is a sound engineer for sure 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mine sounds like an overpowered rototiller running in a field of rocks when idling. I would imagine it would probably sound pretty awful running down the road if I recorded it with whatever gear Henshaw was using.

I never put velocity stacks other than those little grey plastic ones that used to come with Amal carburetors when I had them on a Norton engine. I did run the engine without filters for a while when I initially got it together and on the road. I think it worked well enough with a 100% stock engine with stock jetting and dual open exhaust, but it was a long time ago.
 
Mine sounds like an overpowered rototiller running in a field of rocks when idling. I would imagine it would probably sound pretty awful running down the road if I recorded it with whatever gear Henshaw was using.

I never put velocity stacks other than those little grey plastic ones that used to come with Amal carburetors when I had them on a Norton engine. I did run the engine without filters for a while when I initially got it together and on the road. I think it worked well enough with a 100% stock engine with stock jetting and dual open exhaust, but it was a long time ago.
Most road bikes are probably jetted too rich for a velocity stack to make a difference, An air cleaner might slow the motor but how would most people know it was happening ? Most people are not riding around on race tracks trying to go faster. When I tune my bike, I progressively lean-off the jetting until the motor lets me know that I have gone to far, then I richen the jetting the minimum amount possible. I do it by making my own needle jets then drilling half a thou out of the leanest ones. It is not possible to do it, if petrol is the fuel - the errors in needle jet sizes are too significant. A Commando with a computer controlled fuel injection system would probably be much faster. Petrol has a higher calorific value than methanol, but Amal carbs can manage methanol better than petrol. The sightest bit too rich with any fuel in any motor, causes loss of power - except when nitromethane is used.
It is not possible to make the hole in a jet smaller with a drill.
 
Most people are not riding around on race tracks trying to go faster.

Trying to make bikes go faster is my hobby.

I have not bothered with the how lean can I go thing with my current combination of Norton parts. Only engines I ran and tuned lean when cold were single cylinder 2 strokes dirt bikes. They always richened up once warmed up. More so that 4 strokes.

I had more to say hear, but too far off topic to post.
 
Trying to make bikes go faster is my hobby.

I have not bothered with the how lean can I go thing with my current combination of Norton parts. Only engines I ran and tuned lean when cold were single cylinder 2 strokes dirt bikes. They always richened up once warmed up. More so that 4 strokes.

I had more to say hear, but too far off topic to post.
I found with two strokes that when road racing in 5 lap races on short circuits - the motor got slower as it warmed-up, and the drum brake used to fade at the same time. So one thing compensated for the other, - you cannot ride faster with a fading brake , to compensate for the slower motor. With a two-stroke, warming the motor before racing is stupid - the crankcases are part of the inlet tract.
With me, racing was never about winning - only ever about developing the bike. The dog-fights appeal to my sense of humour. Some guys really fire-up and have a go. My ego is about making things better. When I was a kid, I could have afforded to buy a competitive race bike - but a decent table-tennis bat would have been cheaper. My so-called friend has a massive inferiority complex which makes him dangerous. His ego depends on winning races.
 
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Trying to make bikes go faster is my hobby.

I have not bothered with the how lean can I go thing with my current combination of Norton parts. Only engines I ran and tuned lean when cold were single cylinder 2 strokes dirt bikes. They always richened up once warmed up. More so that 4 strokes.

I had more to say hear, but too far off topic to post.
Meant to say "More so "than" 4-strokes."

I found with two strokes that when road racing in 5 lap races on short circuits - the motor got slower as it warmed-up, and the drum brake used to fade at the same time. So one thing compensated for the other, - you cannot ride faster with a fading brake , to compensate for the slower motor. With a two-stroke, warming the motor before racing is stupid - the crankcases are part of the inlet tract.
The single cylinder 2 stroke engines I tuned were definitely quicker warmed up. If the engine got slower when warmed up a minute, the tuner was probably not that experienced and the engine was getting close to seizing up. An engine should never run slower warmed up.
 
Meant to say "More so "than" 4-strokes."


The single cylinder 2 stroke engines I tuned were definitely quicker warmed up. If the engine got slower when warmed up a minute, the tuner was probably not that experienced and the engine was getting close to seizing up. An engine should never run slower warmed up.
Methanol fuel makes two-strokes become much faster, it cools the bottom end as well as the inlet port. When the motor eventually gets hot, it slows because of the reduced supercharging effect. Petrol does not have such a large latent heat of vaporisation. But the effect is still there. Same with running it too rich, but with petrol - too rich is twice as bad. One of the things which upset a lot of people when the two-strokes arrived was the criticality in tuning them. My brother runs 3 cylinder Kawasaki motors in speedway sidecars. He was Australian Champion in one class in 2001. Winning is all about the jetting -getting it lean enough is much easier with methanol. There is an extremely small margin in fast and slow - with methanol, twice as much is used - so the errors are halved. Most guys believe Phil Irving's book - it is misleading.' If you run rich, you still get good power' is true, but you don't get the best that way. It is the reason my Seeley 850 is reasonably fast. Most of the other guys are probably jetted too rich. It makes a big difference. The Suzuki T250 racer I built was faster than my Seeley 850. I won a race with it and immediately sold it. By 2003, it had won 28 races and 4 championships. I think doing that with such a bike proves nothing. I actually encountered it in a race when I was riding my Seeley. I beat it, but the guy who was riding it might have been a bit slow. Most of the guys did not have my level of experience and I did not give them a hard time. It is silly - road racing is not what many people think - the fastest guys are often the old wrinklies. One of my friends was a top A grader in the 1970s - the guys with the big Hondas will not give him a ride. I once saw him chuck a TZ750 away when he was halfway down the front straight at Phillip Island. I was never in that class, and never wanted to be. Most of those guys are dead now.
 
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When I was tuning my T250 Suzuki, a friend was racing a T20 Suzuki on methanol. He told me his needle jet size was 0.113 inch. If I had not been told that I would have been there forever trying to get it right. Making the hole in a jet smaller is not easy, unless you are wealthy. With my Seeley, I make my own needle jets out of brass hex, and use a mix of metric and number drills. With petrol, it would be impossible.
 


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