Valve seat angles

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This particular subject has probably been flogged to death but I can't find the threads. Short of taking my Gray bike apart I can't remember what I did with seat angles. It took me two hours just to find my my blue box of Neway cutters, reams and mandrels! As soon as I called a friend of mine and accused him of stealing them (not returning 'em, actually) he tells me where I had put 'em when he brought them back! :? I'm starting to dislike the under 30 crowd! :P

Short of taking the head off of my gray bike (I'm just refurbishing a low mileage one I've got on the shelf) to see, I can't remember what I use to do. I think the setup that worked for me (longivity etc.) was to cut the exhaust at 45 degrees - centered on seat of valve and undercut with a 60 degree cutter to achieve: a. a Seating width approx. 1/3 the valve seat width b. As close to center as possible. The part that's bugging me is I THINK I use to do 3 angle on the intake seat using the old standard 30/46/60 degree cutters. There is just too many automobile engines and dead brain cells between then and now for me to remember. Nor do I know what is the latest "accepted norm". The only info I found so far indicates 45 degree on intake and exhaust. I do seem to remember that I had trouble concerning the 46/45 degree "self-seating" set-up on the exhaust seats with heat transfer and burning but I'm not even friggin' sure it was Nortons that I'm thinking about!

Also, I seem to remember machining a groove in the valve guide to accept an automotive application seal (Pinto?) that had a spring (can't remember proper name) to help hold seal in the groove you cut. Anybody heard of that or am I just making it up? Didn't we have a problem with the valve stem yanking the seal off the guide or something?!? Jeez...nuttin but fog! :oops: :shock:

If there is anything else you guys can think of that I may need to know or remember (cylinder head only for now), pa-leease clue me in. The last time I built a Norton engine was 1985 and I have the dreaded CRS (Can't Remember Squat) desease. Remembering the nuts and bolts seem to be like riding a bicycle but with mods and specs - not so much! I'm trying to avoid those "oh, yea" moments that one has after the fact, when you go "I coulda, shoulda, woulda". I try hard not to should on myself.

Please note that I'm not after a "hobot hopped up hotrod" just effenciency and longivity. :lol:

Thought you guys my like my "fancy" diaphram compressor. Best use of Slowzookie parts I've found!

Valve seat angles


Mike

"A wise man learns from other's mistakes, a fool learns from his own!"
 
Hi Mike,
That's what I'd do specially if the valve was pocketed. You could do the same with the exhaust just the seat needs to be wider, up to the full width of the valve seat if you want, to take away the heat. As for guide seals popping off, use viton seals and make sure they are fully fitted, if they feel belled they aren't fully home. I've machined a brass tube to push over the fitted seal to force the bead into the guide's seal groove.


Cash
 
Whadda ya tawkin' bout Wingnut? Too many big wurds fer ya? :lol:

I've got a kickstarter ready to send Tuesday, but I losted your snail-mail address.

Mike
 
First paragraph: "As soon as I called a friend of mine and ..."

B.S.

You don't HAVE any friends.



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hey, didn't follow your advice, bought silver paint too sparkerlery for the triple trees. You were right, .......there, I said it.
 
First paragraph: "As soon as I called a friend of mine and ..."
B.S.
You don't HAVE any friends.

I WAS going to give you that kickstarter, but that was the old friend deal. Sure glad you cleared that up! :lol:

Mike
 
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