I have a set of BT045's on my 750. I like them fine. I have a set of AM18's on my 850 and both of my SR500's. I'd rather have the Avons myseof but either one works really well for me. I had a GS750 I rode a lit with BT045's. Heavier bike but they worked well ther etoo. I live in Seattle so we see a lot of rain also. I think the Bridgstones move a little more in the rain grooves but that may not bother you.
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I just ordered a set of Avon AM26 Roadriders 100/90x19. I noticed on Avon's website that the minimum recommended rim width is 2.15 but stock Commando rims are 1.85. Is this an issue? (I always seem to find contradictory information *after* I order parts! :roll: )
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Flo's report is encouraging to me, wavering to order 110 or 100 front on Wm2 rim.
One wild - weird thing I noticed on SV650 and two Combats was any and everything that improved hard surface off road, Gravel, hardened mud flats, plywood, deck wood, rock sheets in stream beds, also improved great highway pavement. Hm.
Best traction on all the above in Peel was gotten on rock hard 55+ PSI which means very narrow foot print which means narrow tire similar benefit to me. Only let air down because too severe shock transmission.
Except for wear factor I don't think you can do better than run non DOT pure bald race tires. J-P Harley catalog has member sale each month. I guess a lb less mass to lift up on drops would benefit me as much as more cushion up front. Thanks for the tire review and Flo pushing me against modern grain again.
One wild - weird thing I noticed on SV650 and two Combats was any and everything that improved hard surface off road, Gravel, hardened mud flats, plywood, deck wood, rock sheets in stream beds, also improved great highway pavement. Hm.
Best traction on all the above in Peel was gotten on rock hard 55+ PSI which means very narrow foot print which means narrow tire similar benefit to me. Only let air down because too severe shock transmission.
Except for wear factor I don't think you can do better than run non DOT pure bald race tires. J-P Harley catalog has member sale each month. I guess a lb less mass to lift up on drops would benefit me as much as more cushion up front. Thanks for the tire review and Flo pushing me against modern grain again.
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hasn't this been covered may times t- i guess the search function times out to quickly (NO KNOCK ON THE FORUM - BUT I DO NOTICE THIS QUITE FREQUENTLY)
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hasn't this been covered may times t- i guess the search function times out to quickly (NO KNOCK ON THE FORUM - BUT I DO NOTICE THIS QUITE FREQUENTLY)
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>>>>Sorry I only just noticed this thread. The forum is staying the way it is. If you want to look at certain technical stuff, you >>>>can use the seacrh function to zero in.
>>>>Regards--Jerry"""""
Dunny tt100's are fine, but the rears wear out in the centre very quickly, cheap here in Australia. Avon Roadrider (pattern similar to traditional TT100) but with a rounder cross section profile are very good and last much longer before the centre wears on the rear. I9 like the look of the 4.10 front and rear, front fits nice and snug under the front guard. I can't honestly notice the difference of quicker steering with a thinner front, and just look puney under the front guard.
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mikegray660 said:
Umm, that's why I DID use the search function and pulled up this dead thread from January....... :wink:
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I for one am glad anglelover posted so I could review a scope of reports all in one place before pulling trigger on new tires sale today.
I like the more pinched profile of wider tire on narrow rim, within reason, as tends to lengthen the footprint for more edge presented in leans and easier to tip over.
At similar bike mass and tire PSI the patch area is similar, just the shape changes per rim width and how much side wall have to flex and heat. Seem more pinched tire needs less air to support loads which allow bit more compliance to surface.
Of course 'pinched' will give a lot less center life if you mostly just apply power while upright.
I'll order 100/90 front in AM26 or BTaxx depending on speed rating and cost.
Having doubts on 130 rear on WM3 rim i'm trying to test fit, so 120 rear more reasonable. Dual engine Triumph dragster could do 8.75sec 175 1/4 ET's on 4" wide slick so 120 rear should be plenty for me too.
Most effect I've seen from wide tires other than slowing response and giving more greasey cornering on full leans is the extra wear life.
I like the more pinched profile of wider tire on narrow rim, within reason, as tends to lengthen the footprint for more edge presented in leans and easier to tip over.
At similar bike mass and tire PSI the patch area is similar, just the shape changes per rim width and how much side wall have to flex and heat. Seem more pinched tire needs less air to support loads which allow bit more compliance to surface.
Of course 'pinched' will give a lot less center life if you mostly just apply power while upright.
I'll order 100/90 front in AM26 or BTaxx depending on speed rating and cost.
Having doubts on 130 rear on WM3 rim i'm trying to test fit, so 120 rear more reasonable. Dual engine Triumph dragster could do 8.75sec 175 1/4 ET's on 4" wide slick so 120 rear should be plenty for me too.
Most effect I've seen from wide tires other than slowing response and giving more greasey cornering on full leans is the extra wear life.
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I learned to ride on K81s aka TT100s. I wore out my '71 Commando on K81s. When they quit importing them from England and foisted those ones made in New York on us, I sourced them from France. I've worn out twenty sets, at least. With those big gaps between the tread blocks, the K81 is a very forgiving tire, easy to drift, and good when crossing water or debris.
The Roadriders are very good. I've got AM18s on my '73, very happy with those. Given a choice between them and the K81s, I'll stick with the Avons.
The Roadriders are very good. I've got AM18s on my '73, very happy with those. Given a choice between them and the K81s, I'll stick with the Avons.
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xbacksideslider, drifting helped by lug gaps? [love your handle]
Do you mean pavement or off road drifting?
Are you talking little step outs and skips or some yards long drifting?
I'm fascinated in these zones, half the time trying my best not to lose grip and other half trying to over come it. I20 rear tends to hook up a tad more on loose stuff than 110 size, but not sure the difference on tarmac. I've only played-pressed this level on wide gap 120 dual purpose tires 20% off 80% on rated Dunlops. When I finally put on Avon supervenoms, Peel had been de-tuned by logical changes and distorting by an over rev event. The harder to break loose the faster you can go before it does.
Do you mean pavement or off road drifting?
Are you talking little step outs and skips or some yards long drifting?
I'm fascinated in these zones, half the time trying my best not to lose grip and other half trying to over come it. I20 rear tends to hook up a tad more on loose stuff than 110 size, but not sure the difference on tarmac. I've only played-pressed this level on wide gap 120 dual purpose tires 20% off 80% on rated Dunlops. When I finally put on Avon supervenoms, Peel had been de-tuned by logical changes and distorting by an over rev event. The harder to break loose the faster you can go before it does.
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We used to race on Mount Hollywood Road, also known as the "Backside," of Griffith Park. Somtimes we went sliding down the road. One of our group made up some lapel buttons that said "Backsidesliders" overlaid on a map of the road. The City of Los Angeles, at some point decided that it didn't want to pay to maintain that road so it was closed. That's why I am Xbacksideslider.
I have an image of that lapel button that I would like to put up on this board as my avatar but the site requires some kind of hosting to do that. Can't I just upload the picture?
I have an image of that lapel button that I would like to put up on this board as my avatar but the site requires some kind of hosting to do that. Can't I just upload the picture?
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Photobucket. Free, won't kill you to use it...
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backsideslide, still leaving me to wonder what you were racing to end up on backs so routinely? Bicycles, skates, mini bikes, dirt bikes, street bikes. Hope you can display the pin.
We use to throw sugar sand on sharp sidewalk corners with fire hydrant at apex and road just beyond, on steel skates then later bicycles, to routinely end up any which way- stinging and busted up some but loving it to high heaven. We changed rules pretty soon to allow pilots to untangle from hedge and bikes, as your best friend will run right over your face trying to get good line to make it around themselves. Your enemies will aim lower laughing.
I just got in new AM26 RoadRyders 100-90-19" and 120-80-18". They are peakier than AM23-24. Rear is a lot narrower foot print than the dual purpose Dunlop 120-80-18". AM26 rather softer than the Dunlop, so will give em a try in a year or so. If Peel over powers 120 then Trixie can use it up, while I try to work 130 on too narrow a rim. Left front AM26 is left in sun to warm and put on Saturday.
We use to throw sugar sand on sharp sidewalk corners with fire hydrant at apex and road just beyond, on steel skates then later bicycles, to routinely end up any which way- stinging and busted up some but loving it to high heaven. We changed rules pretty soon to allow pilots to untangle from hedge and bikes, as your best friend will run right over your face trying to get good line to make it around themselves. Your enemies will aim lower laughing.
I just got in new AM26 RoadRyders 100-90-19" and 120-80-18". They are peakier than AM23-24. Rear is a lot narrower foot print than the dual purpose Dunlop 120-80-18". AM26 rather softer than the Dunlop, so will give em a try in a year or so. If Peel over powers 120 then Trixie can use it up, while I try to work 130 on too narrow a rim. Left front AM26 is left in sun to warm and put on Saturday.
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Same here, I have almost stopped visiting the site because of certain members, this used to be a great site and you could always get help with problems with useful input. What I find annoying is that one person in paticular just seems to respond to anything and usually knows nothing from his experience infact has only been a member for around 1 year, also has probably never ridden a Commando!
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