tri spark

Anyone have a idea why I'm getting kick back after the bike has been sitting for a few days? Timing has been checked with a wheel and strobe, runs and idles great.
Thanks,Larry

I have had my trispark a couple months now and love it.l

However, I was told it would kick back less than the boyer.

I am not so sure of that.

The tri spark still need a determined full kick to light up.

I don't think there is anything wrong with yours.

"Anyone have a idea why I'm getting kick back after the bike has been sitting for a few days?"

My tri-spark equipped 850 did the same thing for the first time yesterday. It kicked back twice, backfiring through the carb on the first two kicks. On the third kick it started "normally." Until yesterday it had never kicked back and it has been a one kick starter since I installed the Trispark. I'm also wondering what would cause this...

You guys must be featherweights 8)

If you transfer all your weight to the kicker and kick like its your last you'll over power and tendency for the engine to give you attitude :mrgreen:

RS

Anytime a component does something that it has never done before, I have to wonder why. Since I did not kickstart the bike differently yesterday than the way I kickstarted it the last several hundred times, it makes me wonder if something has changed timing wise. Though I will admit that when it started on the 3rd kick, it acted completely normal in every way.

mine never kicks back - oh wait a minute i have a pazon, sorry!

Started my Commando today and it started on the first kick as has been usual for months. Maybe I WAS too wimpy on the lever the other day...

RoadScholar said:

If you transfer all your weight to the kicker and kick like its your last you'll over power and tendency for the engine to give you attitude

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It's been my experience to almost be launched by the kicker or a half broken foot.

Hi Chaps - I assume you're all referring to the 'Classic Twin' system (I did have an earlier Tri-Spark system based on the triple 'non-wasted spark' system) - I subsequently fitted an early Classic Twin system and was delighted with it - it never kicked-back. It did however fail a couple of months ago (poor starting and misfiring) - I contacted Steve Kelly who was (as usual) very helpful - he sent me a replacement stator and the problem was fixed (I noted that the new stator is a more 'refined' device - better finished etc. - whether the internals are any different I cannot say). I can only state that my Classic Twin system has never kicked back - I was always under the impression that the anti-kickback feature is based upon extra retard on start-up - I may be wrong - -

All I can suggest that the ignition timing needs to be spot-on. I strobed mine for 29 before TDC @ 3000 rpm.

Otherwise contact Steve Kelly - he's very helpful.

Cheers,

britbike220 said:

RoadScholar said:

If you transfer all your weight to the kicker and kick like its your last you'll over power and tendency for the engine to give you attitude

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It's been my experience to almost be launched by the kicker or a half broken foot.

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Back in 1970 I worked at a Triumph shop while in college. The service manager gave me a 500cc Velocette to tune and showed me how to guage the point break in the mag using a piece of cellophane from a cigarette pack; the goal was to have the cellophane just getting loose as the piston came up to the timing plug height; I think of this fondly as the "art" of tuning. Anyway, I finished the timing, the fluids and the chain tensions, did the tire pressures and the alignment... Now I'm ready to test ride, but had never started a 500cc single; the servie manager assured me that he wasn't going to help, said starting a 500cc single was a rite of passage. I think you know where this is going. My first kick was a bit too light hearted, the Velo knew this and launched me into a hand stand, if I hadn't had a death grip on the bars I may have ended up in the parking lot. The service manager, when he stopped laughing, came over and told me English singles needed a take-no-prisoner stroke on the kicker, he also told me that I should re-time the bike using the correct setting and the correct timing plug....

I weigh 230 pounds, when I push the Norton kicker through it's stroke in less than a second I generate more then 4x the torque of the engine, it will NEVER kick back on me. :mrgreen:

RoadScholar said:

I weigh 230 pounds, when I push the Norton kicker through it's stroke in less than a second I generate more then 4x the torque of the engine, it will NEVER kick back on me. :mrgreen:

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Did anyone ever have one of those super DUH moments in their life. This is going to sound really stupid to most of you, but after I read this reply from roadscholar a month or so ago I went out to the norton that had been giving me kickback problems for a few years and laid into the kick with total follow through...and low and behold no fear of kickback again. Then thinking through this issue I realized a few years ago I had either hesitated or not kicked through and this was causing all of my problems. I have been blaming boyer for my sore foot and ankle for years w/o cause, thanks roadscholar.

RoadScholar said:

I weigh 230 pounds, when I push the Norton kicker through it's stroke in less than a second I generate more then 4x the torque of the engine, it will NEVER kick back on me. :mrgreen:

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I have a Sparx. My battery got low back in February and I didn't stay on top of it. Kicked the bike over, it sputtered and died. Went to kick it again *hard* (I weigh 180) and it kicked back mid stroke. My vision turned white for a few seconds. Fortunately I pulled my boot off before my ankle swelled up, otherwise I'd be buying a new pair of boots. I was on crutches for a week.

I still kick with full force, but I make damn sure never to let my battery get low again!

Cheers,

- HJ

Retard a degree or 2.

I am surely retarded a degree or two (awright, shuddup youse guys....) and I have few problems starting my Boyer (knock on wood) equipped Commando.

I do free the clutch plates and read it a stern USMC warning about insubordination and field remedies therefor before kicking over.

No problems whatsoever.

Ya just gotta let 'em know who's BOSS..... :twisted: