Tariff Update

I needed some new foam for my Shoei GT Air.
The center foam in the size I want isn't available here in the States.
The Visor Shop in the UK has it and the cheek pads.
$113.14 for the parts, $35.14 for Shipping, DHL. Total $148.28....
They made it very clear I was responsible for Tariffs/duties.

Just got hit by DHL,
Regulatory Charges (L1) 1.34
Import Export Duties (L2) 11.31
Duty Tax Processing-No Account (L3) 17.50

Total Due............30.15......27% on the original 113.14.....
 
MichaelB said:
I needed some new foam for my Shoei GT Air.
The center foam in the size I want isn't available here in the States.
The Visor Shop in the UK has it and the cheek pads.
$113.14 for the parts, $35.14 for Shipping, DHL. Total $148.28....
They made it very clear I was responsible for Tariffs/duties.

Just got hit by DHL,
Regulatory Charges (L1) 1.34
Import Export Duties (L2) 11.31
Duty Tax Processing-No Account (L3) 17.50

Total Due............30.15......27% on the original 113.14.....
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That's an expensive pad. lordy
 
I ordered an LED headlight for my Nort from Paul Goff. Total cost 72.90 Pounds Sterling. Cost of part 39.90. Shipping and Handling 16 pounds fifty pence. Tariff 16 pounds 50 pence. Part was delivered and will be installed tomorrow. Further comment will be unproductive.
 
Last fall, I needed a 4203 c3 2RS rear wheel bearing for my '73 850 Norton Commando, and I read on this site that the 123 bearing company in Florida had them, for $10, so I ordered one. Unfortunately, their website did not disclose that they were actually a French company, with a Florida address and website, but with no inventory they could ship me from Florida, and that the $10 bearing was in Europe, and so when it came, they charged me $20 freight on my $10 bearing--an additional 200% markup. Then, last week I got a letter from FedEx, telling me that I owed them an additional $10 on my now $30 purchase-- the new $10 charge consisted of the $5 tariff and their $5 "disbursement fee" for paying the $5 tariff, for another additional 100% markup, or an additional 300% added onto the price.

If you have been following along here, between a tariff and tariff related charges that our folks in Washington swore American consumers would not pay, and international shipping charges that 123 bearing did not disclose, my $10 bearing ended up costing me 4 times its $10 cost, or $40. All I can say is, I am just glad my purchase was small, and that, if I needed one, I got a relatively cheap lesson in who not to trust.
 
linker48x said:
Last fall, I needed a 4203 c3 2RS rear wheel bearing for my '73 850 Norton Commando, and I read on this site that the 123 bearing company in Florida had them, for $10, so I ordered one. Unfortunately, their website did not disclose that they were actually a French company, with a Florida address and website, but with no inventory they could ship me from Florida, and that the $10 bearing was in Europe, and so when it came, they charged me $20 freight on my $10 bearing--an additional 200% markup. Then, last week I got a letter from FedEx, telling me that I owed them an additional $10 on my now $30 purchase-- the new $10 charge consisted of the $5 tariff and their $5 "disbursement fee" for paying the $5 tariff, for another additional 100% markup, or an additional 300% added onto the price.

If you have been following along here, between a tariff and tariff related charges that our folks in Washington swore American consumers would not pay, and international shipping charges that 123 bearing did not disclose, my $10 bearing ended up costing me 4 times its $10 cost, or $40. All I can say is, I am just glad my purchase was small, and that, if I needed one, I got a relatively cheap lesson in who not to trust.
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You got scammed by one of millions of slippery snakes online hawking junk....
...and it's the fault of our gummint?

Cool story bro.
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Did you ever try shipping anything INTO France?
I didn't think so.
$300 tariff on a $1200 pair of motorcycle shocks.
 
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concours said:
You got scammed by one of millions of slippery snakes online hawking junk....
...and it's the fault of our gummint?

Cool story bro.
View attachment 124233

Did you ever try shipping anything INTO France?
I didn't think so.
$300 tariff on a $1200 pair of motorcycle shocks.
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Without knowing the details, it sounds as if that was mostly sales tax - here in Denmark, its 25% on everything. If I were to buy these shocks from you in the US, I would pay 25% of the invoice value + postage, plus a fixed fee of $25 to cover PostNord's expenses in opening the package and sending me the bill. If postage cost say $50, I would end up paying 25% of $1250 + $25 = $337.5 over and above the $1200 I would have sent to you originally.

However, if I were to buy the shocks from my friendly local Norton dealer here in Denmark, I would also pay 25% VAT.
Assuming that the dealer would also sell them for $1200, I would pay $1200 + $300 VAT.

It's not actually a case of the Evil State punishing me (or you) for buying abroad.
 
SteveBorland said:
Without knowing the details, it sounds as if that was mostly sales tax - here in Denmark, its 25% on everything. If I were to buy these shocks from you in the US, I would pay 25% of the invoice value + postage, plus a fixed fee of $25 to cover PostNord's expenses in opening the package and sending me the bill. If postage cost say $50, I would end up paying 25% of $1250 + $25 = $337.5 over and above the $1200 I would have sent to you originally.

However, if I were to buy the shocks from my friendly local Norton dealer here in Denmark, I would also pay 25% VAT.
Assuming that the dealer would also sell them for $1200, I would pay $1200 + $300 VAT.

It's not actually a case of the Evil State punishing me (or you) for buying abroad.
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I clearly understand all that.

I was shipping them back for warranty service, and clearly stated so on the attached documentation.

I was using it as an example, trying to get the point across to the poster that I quoted.
 
concours said:
You got scammed by one of millions of slippery snakes online hawking junk....
...and it's the fault of our gummint?

Cool story bro.
View attachment 124233

Did you ever try shipping anything INTO France?
I didn't think so.
$300 tariff on a $1200 pair of motorcycle shocks.
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Well, there’s always a keyboard cowboy waiting to make a snarky comment. 123 Bearing was recommended here, on this website, in a thread about wheel bearings, as a good supplier of 4203 wheel bearings so I spelled it out pretty clearly in my post they may not be worthy of our trust. Did you miss that?

And this clownshow of tariffs was justified by claims that the American consumers wouldn’t have to pay them, somebody else would—but guess what? That turned out not to be true! Did you miss that too?
 
concours said:
I clearly understand all that.

I was shipping them back for warranty service, and clearly stated so on the attached documentation.

I was using it as an example, trying to get the point across to the poster that I quoted.
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There is a special procedure to cover goods imported for repair, but it does require that the company you send it too are registered, or are willing to make an effort to get the exemption for your package.
I sent a Ducati crank to a specialist in the UK for repair and received an invoice for VAT, payable before delivery in the UK. I contacted my shipping agent and they managed to sort it out, with no cost to me either in the UK or on return to Denmark. I'm sure the same procedure applies In the US.

Either way, it's wrong to present your experience as an example of unfair practice against the US.
 
SteveBorland said:
There is a special procedure to cover goods imported for repair, but it does require that the company you send it too are registered, or are willing to make an effort to get the exemption for your package.
I sent a Ducati crank to a specialist in the UK for repair and received an invoice for VAT, payable before delivery in the UK. I contacted my shipping agent and they managed to sort it out, with no cost to me either in the UK or on return to Denmark. I'm sure the same procedure applies In the US.

Either way, it's wrong to present your experience as an example of unfair practice against the US.
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Please show/explain where I said/implied/eluded to unfair practice against US:

"Did you ever try shipping anything INTO France?
I didn't think so.
$300 tariff on a $1200 pair of motorcycle shocks."

It appears you view it through a lens of "unfair", and I see it as a cost of doing business.

I order tens of thousands of dollars worth of machinery parts from Europe, Asia and North America regularly.

The worldwide tariffs have been in place a long time.
 
SteveBorland said:
There is a special procedure to cover goods imported for repair, but it does require that the company you send it too are registered, or are willing to make an effort to get the exemption for your package.
I sent a Ducati crank to a specialist in the UK for repair and received an invoice for VAT, payable before delivery in the UK. I contacted my shipping agent and they managed to sort it out, with no cost to me either in the UK or on return to Denmark. I'm sure the same procedure applies In the US.

Either way, it's wrong to present your experience as an example of unfair practice against the US.
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Don't bother, he's a cult member.
 
concours said:
Please show/explain where I said/implied/eluded to unfair practice against US:

"Did you ever try shipping anything INTO France?
I didn't think so.
$300 tariff on a $1200 pair of motorcycle shocks."

It appears you view it through a lens of "unfair", and I see it as a cost of doing business.

I order tens of thousands of dollars worth of machinery parts from Europe, Asia and North America regularly.

The worldwide tariffs have been in place a long time.
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In which case I have misread your comment and apologise.
I was simply pointing out that your experience with sending shocks to France for repair is not comparable with someone paying tariffs on stuff bought outside the US. Apart from anything else, the fact that you as the sender paid the import charges is completely different to a tariff where the receiver normally pays the cost.
 
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linker48x said:
Last fall, I needed a 4203 c3 2RS rear wheel bearing for my '73 850 Norton Commando, and I read on this site that the 123 bearing company in Florida had them, for $10, so I ordered one. Unfortunately, their website did not disclose that they were actually a French company, with a Florida address and website, but with no inventory they could ship me from Florida, and that the $10 bearing was in Europe, and so when it came, they charged me $20 freight on my $10 bearing--an additional 200% markup. Then, last week I got a letter from FedEx, telling me that I owed them an additional $10 on my now $30 purchase-- the new $10 charge consisted of the $5 tariff and their $5 "disbursement fee" for paying the $5 tariff, for another additional 100% markup, or an additional 300% added onto the price.

If you have been following along here, between a tariff and tariff related charges that our folks in Washington swore American consumers would not pay, and international shipping charges that 123 bearing did not disclose, my $10 bearing ended up costing me 4 times its $10 cost, or $40. All I can say is, I am just glad my purchase was small, and that, if I needed one, I got a relatively cheap lesson in who not to trust.
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I use a business called Bearings inc South, in Oak Creek WI. They don't show a web site. If they didn't have what I needed in stock, they ordered it. I've not been disappointed in doing business with them. A bearing supply house in your area should be of help. I'm an in person type of buyer when I can be. I bring the old bearing with me so they can get any additional information they need for it.
 

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