Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame

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Hi guys. I'm going to be mounting my alloy Lyta style tank on my featherbed here in the next few weeks.... hopefully it will be arriving in the mail soon. Do any of you have any suggestions? I saw online that a lot of guys weld in a tube to the frame to mount the strap bracket. like this

Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame


Are there any other ideas? My frame was recently powder coated so I'd prefer not to go this route.
 
Johnnymac said:
.......Are there any other ideas? My frame was recently powder coated so I'd prefer not to go this route.
Perhaps the rubber coated clamps or straps that go around the rear seat frame loop for mounting the rear passenger hand rail on a commando might work. You could have the tads pointing inward and could then bolt on a piece of angle iron or aluminum plate/strap etc...
 
I have never had my Featherbed tank strapped down, it just sits on the mounting rubbers and has done so for 34 years now and I have good reason, when I first built my 850/Featherbed I was running volicity stacks had a slite leaking fuel tap, she kicked back and a big flame came out of the carbies, she started up but was enought to start a fire while I was on it, up she went, I would have lost the whole bike but was able to get the tank off when the fuel lines melted, only damaged the top half of the bike so was very lucky and decided to never strap it down.

But nomaly there is a bar that bolts to the frame where the tank strap mounts and at the front I think they mount to the head stay.

Ashley
 
Get one of those 'hoover drive' O rings. Secure this with a cable tie to eiter side of the frame. get your stainless tank strap and bend a U / hook shape on the end (round off the corners on a linisher or sander etc before bending). Then hook your stretched hoover ring over the bent tank strap to secure the tank.

Add a dry-break coupler into the line and you've got a tank you can remove in about 3 seconds!
 
Maybe I'm no thinking this through all the way.... since I don't have a tank or tank strap yet.

Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.

Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame
 
Johnnymac said:
Maybe I'm no thinking this through all the way.... since I don't have a tank or tank strap yet.

Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.

Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame

That is the way Norton mounted the tank....a large section O ring (.188 or so) holds mine.

Slick
 
texasSlick said:
Johnnymac said:
Maybe I'm no thinking this through all the way.... since I don't have a tank or tank strap yet.

Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.

Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame

That is the way Norton mounted the tank....a large section O ring (.188 or so) holds mine.

Slick

Same here using a Hoover belt.
 
Hi Johnny

I also use the same mount with the Hoover belt. I also have a slimline with a big long tank & use that mount with a flat bar (long z shape)that goes under the tube allowing the hoover belt to hook on further back.

Chris
 
Chris said:
Hi Johnny

I also use the same mount with the Hoover belt. I also have a slimline with a big long tank & use that mount with a flat bar (long z shape)that goes under the tube allowing the hoover belt to hook on further back.

Chris

Thanks Guys.
 
Johnnymac said:
Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.

Must be a no-brainer. That's how I mounted mine, and I hadn't investigated options beforehand.
 
Johnnymac said:
Maybe I'm no thinking this through all the way.... since I don't have a tank or tank strap yet.

Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.


It will pull the tank forward, but you can probably deal with that.
 
Triton Thrasher said:
Johnnymac said:
Maybe I'm no thinking this through all the way.... since I don't have a tank or tank strap yet.

Why couldn't I attach a oring/rubber strap to the existing tab that's already welded on the crossbar and then bring it around the bottom of the rear tank and attach to the hook on the strap? Seems like a no brainer.


It will pull the tank forward, but you can probably deal with that.
That's a good point. If my tank and strap would ever arrive, I'd try it out!
 
I have always been reluctant to modify my Atlas in any way that could not be readily undone. The last thing I would wish to do is cut something out, next would be weld in something. Drilling holes is tolerable.

If you find it necessary to install a cross brace, I would recommend using threaded inserts....one type is in the link below...there are other types.

http://avkfasteners.com/products.AR.php

You could drill one hole in the underside of each top frame tube, install the insert, and screw in a cross brace. To undo, grind off the insert and patch the hole.

Slick
 
I use an inch wide woven polymer tank strap with an adjustable buckle up towards the front mount which loops though a thick wire attachment behind the steering heads, and at the back where I've fitted a attachment to the cross mount which goes around the bar with a hook that holds one end of an offcentre latch (such as is used on military ammunition boxes). When you hook the end of the flexible strap and latch to the rear hook, and close the latch, it stands vertical at the rear of the tank, the strap is stretched quite as bit according to how you have the buckle at the front adjusted. The latch comes with a hole through it so it does not pop undone easily if it is locked, I thread about a 2 inch piece of lockwire through the hole with the ends bent ( not twisted together) so it cannot pop undone while you are riding the bike, however if the bike catches on fire you simply pull out the wire and flip the catch , push aside the strap and pull the tank off. The reason for all this is quite simple. If you ride the bike too hard in a high speed corner and push the front wheel out from under you, you can experience the great big tank-slapper. Successful recovery often involves letting go of the handle bars and grabbing the tank. If it comes off, you are off the bike.
When I race the tank is always locked down hard onto the rubbers, yet still easy to get off. The worst example of this going wrong was the crash which ended Peter Williams racing career where both the tank and the seat he was sitting on came off the bike in a difficult situation.
Don't use friction steering dampers - only hydraulic - helps a lot. And if you get in the shit keep throwing the bike vertical and don't grab the bars too soon.
I'm not a good rider however I know how to avoid getting hurt. If you get into the worst situation and the tank comes off, you are stuffed - you need to keep throwing the bike vertical using the tank to do it.
 
A look is worth a thousand words. It is a silly little thing, however quite important.

Tank strap mounting/installation on slimline frame
 
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