Tall Tales...what ever made me buy a norton?

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I had been racing for a couple of years on modern ( at the time when a Yamaha 250 LC was modern) and found it too expensive , you needed to buy a new bike each year, when a friend who was into british iron suggested we got together and build a classic racing bike. He would build it if I bought the bits.
I had no knowledge of Nortons but it was an chance to get a competitive bike that would last more than one year!
That's how it started.
I bought a rolling chasis ( slimline featherbed) for £110, made the engine plates myself from patterns I borrowed, and between us, with the help of friends donating parts, we knocked together a race bike for £550. That was in 1984. I've still got the bike now, and it's pretty much the same.
We had to fit supertrapp silencers when the noise rules came in, the glassfibre tank dissolved slowly and was replaced by an alloy one, and the oil tank cracked during a race, that was fun!
I'll try to post a photo...see if it works.

Tall Tales...what ever made me buy a norton?


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Pommie...
Neither do I...but the trick is always to check stuff out with the preview button...before shooting it up to the server. Then, any mistakes can be corrected before it appears in the forum....you can go back and edit your entry too....give it another try and if you get the photo into the thread, where you wanted it in the first place....I will then do an edit/delete on my entry and all will be again in order.

go over this again too...might help...might not...I'm no internet guru :wink:

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Tall Tales...what ever made me buy a norton?
 
Pommie...
Mine is too, looked and checked, don't hink that button has anything to do with this...give it another try...simply make sure the picture is really in the net on a server (and it is...or I couldn't have gotten it to work), copy the address of it, go back to forum, hit "image" button above the text block, paste the address, hit image button again, and do a "preview". If the picture is there in the preview, do a submit and smile...and then we can get on with the rest of your tall tale! :wink:
 
Back in 1972 my best friend, then and now, bought a 750 combat roadster from the Hong Kong Importer, he had all the Dunstall stuff like tank, seat, fairing, clip ons and rear sets fitted and proceeded to ride the thing like a hooligan for the whole year, outpacing all of the rest of us who were motocrossers and generally rode Yamaha DT1 250 trail bikes on the road.
My friend entered the bike in the production race of the Macau Grand Prix and finished second ahead of a number of Japanese professional riders brought in by the local bike importers to make a good showing. He had worn the footpegs down to a stub and the exhaust pipes were also nearly worn through where he had been cornering rather over-enthusiastically. He was kind enough to allow me to ride this bike on a number of occasions and I vowed that I would have one one day. After many years of riding Japanese bikes I came accross a tatty 750 with Dunstall livery and bought it without even riding it. I have now restored the bike to classic 60s cafe racer spec (the bike was featured in Classic Bike Guide July 2005) and one of my happiest moments was when I invited my friend over to come and have a ride on it, to see his face smilling and with the obligatory bugs in his teeth was a real treat.
There is a possibility that at this year's macau grand Prix they may be doing a classic race to commemorate 40 years sice the bike racing first began and if this is the case I will be sponsoring my friend on this very bike to re-enact his feat, if for no other reason than the bullshit is by now wearing a bit thin and we need some new material for our bench-racing sessions. I would post a photo of the bike on this site if I knew how but sadly find it easier to rebuild a Norton engine than to work one of these infernal computing machines! I will e-mail the image to anyone who can kindly help me with this.
Dave
 
dave M said:
I would post a photo of the bike on this site if I knew how but sadly find it easier to rebuild a Norton engine than to work one of these infernal computing machines! I will e-mail the image to anyone who can kindly help me with this.
Dave

You are more than welcome to send any photos to me and I will post them up for you Dave, or you could e-mail photos to Jerry so he could include them in the new photo section?

Photos from dave M:

Tall Tales...what ever made me buy a norton?


Tall Tales...what ever made me buy a norton?
 
Another boring blog entry

Been once again months since I annoyed all of you with this blog of mine....middle of the night again, and it’s hot as heck and who can sleep anyway......by the way...please do keep sending in your stories...this isn't my Thread...it's ours.....


It is getting fall….1976 and the unit has decided to go to the field, so away we go. Rainy and it just won’t stop. Someone has the bright idea of playing war games in the middle of the woods. One night, we spend in the pouring rain up to our waists in water, in a foxhole, trying to see if the “enemy” is creeping up on us to take us prisoner. The enemy has more sense than we do and stays somewhere dry for the night. Evidently the new commander has spent his night soaked too, so the war games get called off and we go to some new area to camp and make a mess of the woods. That night, it rains again and everyone has to find some place out of the rain to sleep. Not easy to do in the woods. Some of us ignore the orders we were given, and wait until the Commander goes to his tent and thinking we are smart, we get under that 2 ½ ton truck where it is pretty dry and try to get some sleep.

Now there’s a reason why all those dummies in the head shed had told us not to sleep under the trucks, but we didn’t find out what it was until about 4 o’clock in the morning.

About 4 or so….one of the fellows starts to make strange noises and it wakes some of us up. Naturally, someone tells him to shut the F**k up and let us sleep. He’s a stubborn idiot and keeps making his strange noises, until one of the fellows gets ticked off enough to turn his flashlight on and shine it in the jerks face. Suddenly the reason for the fellow’s noises became all too clear. The jerk had gone to sleep right under the forward transaxle and the housing was sitting right on his chest. The truck had sunk in the wet ground. Someone tries to pull him out and he starts to use very loud, bad language, more like a scream…and that isn’t good. Screams will wake up the bosses. Someone is bright enough to think of his entrenching tool (Shovel) and work starts in earnest. I get to hold a flashlight and try and talk him into not screaming….the ground is fairly soft, and by digging under him, we make enough room for him to be pulled out. The dummy has a big bruise on his chest, but he is otherwise unhurt. By general consent, we find somewhere else to spend the rest of the night……..


A day or two later, the squad gets some mission that takes them away from the rest of the unit and we are on our own. For some reason, the truck driver is driven back to the main group in a jeep and while he is gone, one of the fellows cuts his hand something awful. Blood all over the place…it’s hospital time. Now the truck driver has just left, but the truck is still there. The Sergeant calls us all together and while the fellow is standing there with blood running all over the ground, we all get asked if any of us has a licence for the truck. Now, no soldier gets a licence for anything that he doesn’t have to, as it means lots of extra work and details to pull…so everybody stands there and sort of looks somewhere else and doesn’t say a thing. Now the fellow is still bleeding and things are getting sort of desperate. So the Sergeant restates the question using different words.

“Let me re-phrase that…….Does anybody THINK they can drive the truck? A half a minute goes by. No one makes a move, except the poor sucker with blood running down his arm. Fool that I am…my hand goes up. After all..someone has to do it.

The trucks back then didn’t have keys for the ignition and luckily, the padlock was not locked, so we got in the truck and pushed and pulled stuff, until the motor sprang to life. But there is a loud hissing noise somewhere and I get out and look around. Sound is coming from under the truck, so I look and find the valve that turns out to be on the airline for the brakes. Lucky me. I get back in and put it in gear, sort of like the farm trucks I drove when I was 12 or so back home, but this one had doors, the farm trucks didn’t.

We made it to the main road and used the map in the truck to figure out which way to the city. There were trolley tracks all over the place once we got into town and there were a few near misses with that truck being so big and such, but we got there to the hospital, he was signed in and I drove the truck back to the field where the squad still was. I filled in the Sergeant, got asked if there had been any accidents and got told to keep my mouth shut about it. We returned to base a few days later and once again, like in the case of the famous bus trip…..I was told one morning to go to the motor pool and pick up my licence. Today…I wish I had kept the two licences after I got out of the military…good source of income….



There are some things that happen in everybody’s life, that change the way we look at things, and affect the rest of our lives. We see someone do something, and we decide never to do that certain thing ourselves. This roommate who liked to drive tractors, turned out to be one of them.

I came back to the room one afternoon and tried to put my key into the lock and turn it…a no go. That means someone is in the room and has put their key into the lock to keep someone from opening it up. As it’s the middle of the afternoon, and there can’t be some girl in there with one of my roommates at that hour…I knock on the door and I hear my roommate say something that didn’t make sense right away to me…it did though, pretty soon. “Is it cool?”, he says. Well…it is pretty cool in the hall, being winter and all, but that didn’t explain such a dumb question. So I say….”Whhaat?” Just like any logical person would. So the key turns and he sticks his head around the edge of the door, and says again in a whisper …”Is it cool?” I’m still not understanding the purpose to all this, but I answer back, “Yeah…it’s cool”, just to get him to let me into the room. Heck with his dumb question, or why he asked it.

I walk over towards my bed, and in front of the bed, is the coffee table with a couple chairs pulled up to it. I glance at the table, and here is where the alarm bells start to go off. The mirror from the wall is laying flat on the table and there is a big pile of brown crystalline stuff on it. He sits down and starts to crush this stuff up and roll something over it to make it into powder. My stomach turns and dreams of spending the rest of my days in some jail start going through my head. “Heck” just doesn’t quite fit the bill, but some pretty obscene words, started to form themselves on my lips…until I think about that fellow hanging out the window of the barracks down the street. I kept my thoughts to myself.

Now he has a nice pile of powder and stands up and goes to the corner post of the bunk bed we sleep in and with a tweezers, takes hold of a tiny thread that is sticking out from under the metal cap on the hollow bedpost, and removes the cap to the bedpost and pulls on the thread. I stand mesmerized and watch him pull the thread up and on the end of the thread is one of those things I can’t see today without thinking of him. A needle. He turns around and tells me it such a great place to hide needles, because if the Sergeant ever opens the cap to look in, the thread and needle will fall in the tube and never be found. “Smart thinking”, says I.

Now comes the worst part. He sits down because by then he’s shaking like a leaf, and pulls a spoon out of his pocket and bends it funny, and puts some water in it. Now he throws some of the powder in with the water and mixes it around, takes his lighter and heats the stuff up. I’m unable to look away, never seen anything like this, in my worst nightmares. He takes the needle and try’s to fill it up with the shit. By this time he’s shaking so bad that he has a lot of trouble doing it, but he finally gets the needle full. It’s a tremendous effort for him just to hold the needle and he is on the verge of tears. He can’t hold himself still long enough to get the needle in his arm and he starts to cry and beg me to hold his arm for him. I don’t know what to do but I just can’t seem to avoid it and I take his arm and hold it tight. I wish so bad to look somewhere else, but I can’t do it, I gotta watch. He sticks the needle in his arm, shoots the stuff in and a moment later the shaking and tears have gone, he’s back to normal. He packs up the rest of his stuff, hangs the mirror on the wall, brags about all the other hiding places he has in the room for his needles, and when he is finally finished, I get to go to the latrine and do what I have needed to do for the last ten minutes……throw up......
 
I wanted to build a classic Brit-powered chopper, either Trump, Beezer, or Norton. The brand didn't much matter to me since it was going to be a whole new learning curve in any case. A Norton engine was what I found first at a price that was right for me. After doing that project, an employee had an old Norton basket case he wanted to sell. Since I had the tools and had familiarized myself with Nortons because of the first build, I was happy to buy the bike and start a second build -- this time a bobber. Got the second one at a much, much better price.
 
There seems to be a common theme appearing

"my dad rode motorcycles" - we all must be infected with the gene.

Anyway, my dad rode motorcycles too, along with all 6 of his siblings and most other people I grew up around. We lived in outback NSW and motorcycles were tools for mustering etc but they were also fun.

I can still remember the first time I power slid a motorcycle. I was about 6 or 7 years old and it was an 80cc Suzuki 2 stroke road bike that was factory/dealer modified for agricultural use. Everywhere I went from then on the sliding technique was honed.

Dad and/or his brothers took us to the Bathurst races every year and we learned to worship those gods of speed. I watched many a big English twin being pushed beyond its human limits across the top of that famous race track.

I left home at an early age and joined the Navy, about as far away from outback Australia as you can get. Spent the next few years getting drunk, playing rugby, travelling the world (or our region for the most part) learning a trade and riding motorcycles.

It was whilst in my last year with the Navy a mate gave me a ride on a 750 fastback. I WAS HOOKED. What a bike in comparison to all the Japanese, Italian, German and American bikes I'd ridden/owned.

Never bought one though as racers never have any money and I was seriously into road racing on TZ Yamahas by this stage. I left the Navy, started my own business making fibreglass for race bikes and continuing to race.

Finally retired from racing and subsequently had the money but couldn't bring myself to buy a Norton as I can't leave motorcycles remotely standard (It's a disease I think) so I didn't want to ruin someone's pride and joy.

Almost 20 years and 30 odd motorcycles went by then I finally stumbled across an internet ad for a highly modified 850. No one's pride and joy to ruin so I bought it. I'm having as much fun fixing it as I am riding it.

As I fix things the brain wanders and I think of modifications I could do. Some I have previously dribbled on about in this forum. Being over 40 and (supposedly) wise beyond my years (LoL) I'm going about things the logical way these days.

There are 2 nortons in the shed now, albeit one of them being not quite, but mostly, an image in my head. The original hot rod I bought is still there plus the chassis, suspension, wheels and brakes for the second hot rod I'm building from scratch.

When it's finished I'll strip the first one, rebuild it cosmetically and give it to my wife for her 35th birthday which means I have 18mths to complete both so what am i doing on here?

Cya.....................
 
why the Norton?

My father has never been near a Norton let alone ridden a motor bike as far as I know. He used to drive a black Ford prefect and Austin A40 back in Birmingham England. I had an Uncle who worked at BSA , a machine operator, he Rode a BSA bantam to work and back most of his working life.
My motorcycle experience started at 21yrs with a Yamaha dt360 dirt bike heavy and no guts. But a lot of fun in the scrub behind Fannie Bay on a salt pan and sandy humpy tracks. I spent more time picking it up off the dirt track than riding it but very rarely got hurt.
I returned to South Aust. and spent a bit of time with a mate surfing. He had a 750 Norton with a custom bubble airbrush paint job on the tank, He accelerated round a corner (Sudholtz road) opened it up and failed to take the 2nd s bend hit a cyclone fence which he afterwards said he never saw knocked himself out for 20 minutes. The bike wasn't too bad but he sold it.
Next bike he bought was a 1976 roadster, white with blue & red stripes. He kept saying you ought to get a bike a Norton if you like alloy to polish or a Bonneville. Anyway one time He saw an ad for a secondhand Norton rang me and I went & checked it out. The owner was about 50yrs polish guy with a crook leg couldn't kick it over he said.
He let me ride down the road and it seemed ok. so for $900.00 I bought a black 1973 850 interstate. On the 5 km ride home I fell off the old girl,going round a roundabout with a steep camber on the wet road I was too cautious. it slipped out from underneath me . Left me with a bruised hip and bruised ego. After that ride home the Norton never ran correctly. Always coughing and spluttering and oiling up the plugs. I took all the junky accessories off. a white police style fairing and chrome crash bar, white and black soft vinyl panniers. now I could see the real machine hidden under all the junk. I decided the head needed to go to a machine shop because it had to have a bent valve stem. took the head to a small engine workshop where they replaced the valves and guides. new exhaust pipes and mufflers and since then she's been a reliable commuter. My mates new roadster on the other hand kept burning out alternators . He went through 3 replaced under warranty. They decided the mounting lugs were out of position but He had had enough traded it in on a Triumph 2300 sedan. Twelve years later My Norton developed a collapsed oil scrapper ring and sat in the shed for ten years until i finally rehoned the bore replaced new std rings and exhaust valves now my only problem is new amal carbys sticking. Such is life with a Norton.
 
"What made me buy my first Norton?" Simple, I was dusted by one!
My first bike, back at the tender age of 20ish, was a '71 Triumph Daytona 500. Lovely machine, but I was ignorant. After pulling it into the house for a winter cleanup and promptly twisting the rectifier in two (I found out later) I sold it unrunning. A couple of years later I bought a clapped-out '72 Bonneville chopper from a backyard and "un-chopped" it as much as I could. With the 750 big-bore kit it would fly, up to about 90 MPH, that is. While riding with an acquaintance who had a '72 (frame, '71 engine) Commando I decided to out-run him, which I promptly did, to the aforementioned 90 MPH. He caught up, smiled broadly, shifted into 4th gear, and RAN AWAY! Well, if you can't beat 'em , join 'em, I thought, and that's where it began.
Mike in Kansas
'69 R type, '70 Roadster, '70 Fastback, '71 SS, '72 Mutt (yep, I bought his bike years later), '73 Roadster, '73 Interstate, '74 Hi-Rider, '67 Bonnie TT, '71 Daytona, '72 T-Bolt, '79 Bonnie (My Dad's bike), '03 Bonnie 100 Ann. bike
 
Why did I buy a Norton Commando? I wanted a bike no one else has around here. I love the look of the classic British motorcycles. But like a lot of people on this forum, I got one because of my dad. He has had nearly 30 motorcycles, mostly all British. He even had a commando. But sold it a year before I was born. His stories and pictures are what hooked me into the bike. When I was about 12 I went to a British bike show, and heard a commando pass me going about 90 miles/h, that was it, I wanted a Norton. When I turned 16 I joined the Army Reserves, and after one summer I had enough to buy one. It took me nearly a year to find one, but I found one and bought it.

Most of my buddies think I am nuts for buying a 35 year old motorcycle, but I love it. I get a lot of odd looks from people when I am driving it, a lot of thumbs up too. I've never seen any younger guys driving old British bikes, are there many around?
 
I had not been riding for awhile, a bump-down from behind
on I-95, leaving a broken wrist, caused me to park everything..
I had promised everyone for years that Interstates were the
safest place to ride. It just sucked the wind out of my carbs.

Something snapped in my brain one day a few years ago
BRITISH BIKES were calling for me to get back on the road.
Triumphs of coarse were what I knew and had owned in
times gone by. But lingering somewhere in the back of
my mind, a few weekends of VERY pleasurable rides
on a friend's N15.. The handling & torque haunted me.

Reinforced with that memory, one day I plied
traderonline for Norton.. Wow, three available in the area.
All black (imagine THAT) all the same price, so I go to
investigate. Turns out to be two clappers and one sweet
almost off the showroom floor 72 Combat.. Holey mackerel
(bearly knew what a combat was then)
and then to seal it all 'the one who must be obeyed' said

"I buy it for you for your Birthday"

ding Ding DING I could say no?? A beautiful beautiful thing!

Why Norton?? I must say , in my opinion,
It's What A Bike Should Feel Like Under You..
Wrecked me for any unit English bike I can say
without hesitation.. Now if I could just not stall it at lights..
 
Hi everyone, first time posting long time lurker. What made me buy a snorton? let me see, i was young , in the army on the rebound from having just wrecked my kaw H1 and my buddy had just bought a 1975 red 850 mk 3 that he decided he did'nt like , he was in to dirt racing so I rode it around on base and monteray area for a couple of weeks when he asked if i wanted to take over payments. The rest is history,still have the bike plus a couple others in various stages, they have been sitting since 1987 in sheds on the farm, of course thats when i got that darn old goldwing, alot of work,raised kids,college,a few years of circle burning, drag racing and finally back to my snortons.
 
I don't own one yet. But I am now officially looking to buy an 1975, 850cc Mk III. I have been labouring over which old bike I should buy, restore and tweak a bit, over the last year or so. I was going to fix up an old RD400 until I saw a Commando a few weeks ago. I want one.........................badly.
 
I was looking for a Vincent twin and had given up hope of finding a good one that was within driving distance. I intended to find a bike that I could actually look at and ride before making such a major purchase. I found Vincents for sale in Australia, the UK and Eastern US, but here in British Columbia the last Vincent twin sale was 11 years ago.
While checking out British bikes for sale on ebay, I spotted a very nice Black and Gold 75 Interstate listed. It was located in Woodinville Wa, about an hour and a half drive from my home. Since my first bike at age 12 was a Norton 500 single ES2, I have always had a soft spot for Nortons. On top of that, the Commando was king when I was 16 back in 1970! We had heard of these very fast old brit bikes called "The Vincent" that could outrun just about anything on two wheels or four, but the Commando was a fast bike we could actually see in action.

I arranged to view the Woodinville Commando, met the owner, rode the bike briefly, then went home and started bidding. I made the top bid, but it did not reach the reserve. After the auction the owner contacted me and we made a deal at a couple of hundred bucks over my last bid. No screaming deal perhaps, $4600 US, but the bike is lovely and I think the MK111 Interstate Estart (4pole starter) bikes tend to bring a good buck. Anyhow, a pretty reasonable purchase compared to a Vincent twin.
I have had the bike two and a half years now and it has been very reliable. I have done a few minor things, and a couple of repairs (fixed speedo, new sprag, new headgasket and stripped head stud replacement after passing two Harley riders at 115 mph sitting up!)

I have since purchased two Vincent Rapides. I finally took the plunge and bought the first one out of Australia based only on the sellers description and two photographs. It took four months for the bike to arrive, the shipper off loaded the container in Malaysia and temporarily lost the bike.
I had already paid in full, of course, so I sweated some over that.
When it did show up, I uncrated it, checked oil, added gas and it fired up with one easy kick! It was at least as good if not better than the seller's description.

I have ridden the Australian Rapide the most of the three bikes. My wife and I have done two- three thousand mile trips on the old bike (it is a very early 1947 B, engine #38, the 38th bike built after WW2) , it really does have some snot, especially when laden down two up with gear, it is amazing! For solo riding though, or a quick blast through the local twisty roads, I like the Norton best and will never sell it.
 
Why did I buy a Norton Commando?

I'm old enough to remember going to the Earls Court motorcycle show in the sixtys when it first came out it didnt know anything about Nortons I had had BSA's starting with a Bantam and working my way up to a Road Rocket... I remember being stuck by two bikes at that show one was the Commando and the other was a Laverda...a Jota, I think anyway last year in October a friend who had bought a Commando Interstate 77 six years ago and done nothing but left it in his garage albeit well preserved told me he had to raised some cash as his daughter was going to Uni the only thing he has to sell was his Commando, all being fair in Love and Bikes I bought it. In seven days it was back on the road and the adrenalin was rushing again. Iv'e heard it said that the last of the Commando was the best of the British Bikes.....you have to admit it ain't half bad

Happy Xmas and ride fast and cool in the new year

:p :evil: :p :twisted: :p
 
Wow there "worntorn" - two Vincents; I'm jealous as hell!!!

I can't think of another bike that has as much charisma as a Vincent! Songs have even been written and recorded about these legendary motorcycles.

I know what you mean about the Norton being the ideal bike for a quick blast through the twisties. I, too, intend the keep the Norton for a long time, perhaps forever, unless that Vincent comes along...

Jason
 
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