TAB II Alloy Tank #3

TonyA said:
No I didn't . Is it trapped somewhere that you can't reach ? Get the swarf to the bottom by the fuel pump mounting and get it with your fingers.
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Can’t see it Tony - just hear it. Can’t tell where it is just the slight tapping of it moving around. I’ll try flushing it again.

TAB recommend flushing the tank with warm water and I did get quite a few small bits of swarf/flux out - this bit is being persistent.:rolleyes:
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Can’t see it Tony - just hear it. Can’t tell where it is just the slight tapping of it moving around. I’ll try flushing it again.

TAB recommend flushing the tank with warm water and I did get quite a few small bits of swarf/flux out - this bit is being persistent.:rolleyes:
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Maybe you need to flush it in the opposite direction?
Rumor has it that Aussie toilets flush in the wrong direction than the rest of the world.

Put a few toy rubber balls inside (13-15mm) but make sure you count how many you put in and retrieve the same back out. Maybe it’ll help loosen the bits.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Can’t see it Tony - just hear it. Can’t tell where it is just the slight tapping of it moving around. I’ll try flushing it again.

TAB recommend flushing the tank with warm water and I did get quite a few small bits of swarf/flux out - this bit is being persistent.:rolleyes:
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These should bring back a few memories , try a few of these .
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Like it or no, an interesting (to scale-approx) stance and appearance comparison between the Thruxton & 961 CR. A quick exercise to look at the fairing.

Still not 100%.

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It’s personal opinion of course, but FWIW, I would not do it. The fairing does not improve the overall aesthetics of the 961 IMO. And if it doesn’t improve, it will detract.

The fairing suits the Thruxton a lot. Without it the bike has an appearance of being too short, not something that affects the 961. The Thruxton is also not well finished off look around the clock area without the faring. Agian, not a big issue on the 961.

In summary, what works well on the Thruxton does not apply on the 961.

All only IMHO of course.
 
Fast Eddie said:
It’s personal opinion of course, but FWIW, I would not do it. The fairing does not improve the overall aesthetics of the 961 IMO. And if it doesn’t improve, it will detract.

The fairing suits the Thruxton a lot. Without it the bike has an appearance of being too short, not something that affects the 961. The Thruxton is also not well finished off look around the clock area without the faring. Agian, not a big issue on the 961.

In summary, what works well on the Thruxton does not apply on the 961.

All only IMHO of course.
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Appreciate the feedback FE - still not sure myself, hence the mock-ups. I’ll do another with the paint scheme when I have time. The two bikes have the same wheelbase (less 5mm+ for the Norton).

As ever it’s all about the angles. To my eye, the TFC looks great from all angles, whereas (for me) the 961 looks fantastic from almost all angles - side on (as above) being least favourite. Principally because of the bulk of the seat unit profile, especially on the duel seat version.

That all changes as the angles change. For me the fairing goes a long way to balancing out front to back - definitely in the eye of the beholder though.
 
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Struck me that retained water from flushing could be holding the debris in the TAB tank, so I let it dry thoroughly and the last of it fell out through manipulating the tank.

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So, for anybody going down the TAB route - make sure ya flush it really well with warm water. I flushed with fuel also.

For anybody removing the tank strap (OEM or TAB), as per Stu’s short vid, make sure there is a washer above and below the strap - bike side. But also insert washers into the tank side recesses (above) to prevent the strap pulling over the head of the screws and/or damaging the rubber. Mine was already starting to strip rubber.

I’d include Stu’s vid but I can’t find it again:rolleyes:!
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Appreciate the feedback FE - still not sure myself, hence the mock-ups. I’ll do another with the paint scheme when I have time. The two bikes have the same wheelbase (less 5mm+ for the Norton).

As ever it’s all about the angles. To my eye, the TFC looks great from all angles, whereas (for me) the 961 looks fantastic from almost all angles - side on (as above) being least favourite. Principally because of the bulk of the seat unit profile, especially on the duel seat version.

That all changes as the angles change. For me the fairing goes a long way to balancing out front to back - definitely in the eye of the beholder though.
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Yeah, I didn’t mean actual wheelbase, just visual length. The Thruxton looks short and stubby to me sans fairing. The 961 looks long, I think due to the tail unit design.

Personally I think both seat units are wrong, the Thruxton is too small, the jump is not big enough. The 961 is too big.

The old skool cafe racer rule of thumb was that the seat hump should closely mirror the rear of the tank…
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Struck me that retained water from flushing could be holding the debris in the TAB tank, so I let it dry thoroughly and the last of it fell out through manipulating the tank.

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So, for anybody going down the TAB route - make sure ya flush it really well with warm water. I flushed with fuel also.

For anybody removing the tank strap (OEM or TAB), as per Stu’s short vid, make sure there is a washer above and below the strap - bike side. But also insert washers into the tank side recesses (above) to prevent the strap pulling over the head of the screws and/or damaging the rubber. Mine was already starting to strip rubber.

I’d include Stu’s vid but I can’t find it again
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Hi Steve , Looks like you got the debris out good ! On the rear tank mount , will the bolt heads rub the frame with the washers installed on the tank side ? And I remember that the frame side of this mount needs a properly sized washer below the strap to stop the strap distance piece from pressing into the mounting hole in the frame.
 
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TonyA said:
Hi Steve , Looks like you got the debris out good ! On the rear tank mount , will the bolt heads rub the frame with the washers installed on the tank side ? And I remember that the frame side of this mount needs a properly sized washer below the strap to stop the strap distance piece from pressing into the mounting hole in the frame.
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Hey Tony,

Need to find washers with a reduced OD to fit into the strap recesses - not difficult to find. With washers included, the socket headed screws are still within the recess and do not contact the frame, when the tank is fitted.

The washers above and below the rear of the strap (to frame) are important. The lower one in particular prevents the compression limiter (distance piece) from being forced downwards where it will fit into the frame aperture above the threaded section. Badly worded - Stu’s video is better if ya can find it.

Small issues that become bigger I guess, if you have to wait 2-3 weeks for a new strap to arrive during riding season.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Hey Tony,

Need to find washers with a reduced OD to fit into the strap recesses - not difficult to find. With washers included, the socket headed screws are still within the recess and do not contact the frame, when the tank is fitted.

The washers above and below the rear of the strap (to frame) are important. The lower one in particular prevents the compression limiter (distance piece) from being forced downwards where it will fit into the frame aperture above the threaded section. Badly worded - Stu’s video is better if ya can find it.

Small issues that become bigger I guess, if you have to wait 2-3 weeks for a new strap to arrive during riding season.
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Frankly, I can't believe my eyes, racing 961s.
I'm pretty sure Steffen has exceeded the gross vehicular weight of that Norton!
He must become a member of the forum, we must see and read more.:cool:
 
I had mine on the track several times. I was honestly quite surprised by how much fun it was. I was only doing track days rather than actual races… so winning wasn’t an issue... so the lack of power wasn’t either. In fact, it was actually great fun having such a good chassis, suspension, brakes and having to try my hardest to get every ounce out of it.
I seriously thought about doing one up as a track toy recently, but honestly, fears of mechanical disasters (being ridden so hard all the time) put me off.

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