T160 tyres

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Hi all,

Looking for opinions on the options and preferences for tyres on a standard T160.
My Commandos all run TT100s and while I like the grip and cornering performance I find the open block design with modern softer compound doesn't half play havoc over white lines, tar banding etc.
I've found 4.10/19 front and rear to improve stability on the Commando, but not sure if this translates well on the Trident?
 
B+Bogus said:
I've found 4.10/19 front and rear to improve stability on the Commando, but not sure if this translates well on the Trident?

TT100s work fine on a T160, but more modern tyres are less likely to cause problems as T160s are usually very stable with practically no tendency to wobble or weave under normal circumstances (although the rubber-mounted handlebars can make the steering feel a little imprecise at speed if 'high' bars are fitted).
The 19" rear (although WM3 rim) still limits tyre choice.
 
Avon Roadriders are great modern tires available for classic sized rims.

Remember, wide, fat tires aren't what these bikes like. They are also heavy, and use more precious HP when you don't have a lot (relatively speaking) to waste...
 
Hi Andy,

on one of mine (standard size rims) I have front and rear Road Riders 100/90/19. Handle well, but the rear is done after @4000 miles, still they aren't that expensive .

The other one has Lester alloys , front 100/90/19 rear is 18" - 110/90/18. Handles well, rear lasts slightly longer than above.

I have to admit to disliking TT100 tyres , I find they white line badly even when slightly worn. I keep meaning to try Conti radials but haven't got round to doing so yet.
sam
 
Will chip in here with ancient second hand contis were DESIGNED to have a greater slip angle for the rear , and would swap ends before TT100s , providing flying Lessons .
Actually it was a lower co efficent of friction , at the rear .
Most stimulateing and thought provoking at 60 mph when your three feet up and the bike is horizontal , beside you . Not a lot of point hanging onto the bars m as its a bit far gone .

The TRIGONIC Tyre series , KR etc racing tyres , and the K 81 TT100 in the sub 100 H.P. days , were designed to have a lower co efficent of DRAG , upright .
narrower contact patch gave less rolling resistance , and adequate traction upright under acceleration and braking .
Greatly incresed area in contact , cranked over . Thus superb braking ( if the chassis isnt shot ) and acceleration IN the Bends .
But a rear had around 5.000 life if you wanted tread under you .

Later 18 rears were common for the wider 4.25 tread , used by Rawlins & the Late 70s PR Norvil on the track . Common on T140s of course .
The English Motorcyclist Illustrated had a series with Ray knight and His P.R. Thruxton 74 750 Bonneville .

Most had gone to 4.10 19 K81 fronts as more docille to steer than the short sidewall stiffrace carcass KR76 3.00 x 19 . which had the same breadth side tread but narrower uypright contact patch .

A British Lap Record was set on a Jota with Roadrunners surformed to Trigonic ( Akin ) X section . , So , If you ' run the bends ' with the footrests dragging , Go for it .

The KR carcasses were said to be to stiff for the rear on Triumphs ( Non Oil Toob , at least ) introducing rear steer in a non rider initiated manner . :(

Then Michlin PZ2s came about , and dual compound semi trigonic Perrelli Phantoms . Both Sticky ( on the track ) but even shorter lived . :(

Then , by 1980 , wonder of wonders , American Dual Compound stiff Casing K81Rs , so your Goldwing wouldnt pop em at 100 across death valley . After All , you wouldnt prolong the agony of the crossing.
So were Told .

However , If extant , the US built ' R ' K81 TT100 Carcass was top tecnology but unfavoured amoung the then current rice burners , on the track .
Their style , was not so much ' run the curves ' as Point and Squirt . Incidently AMA Superbikes had gone to the then new wondertyre SLICKS ( around 1980 )

Late Redline Avon Roadrunners had KR 76 style tread , on a large X sec. semi ' hard ' carcass , and were hot shit , fopr a street tyre . good Water Dispersion & High tech Carcass & tread .

Which brings us to . . . Central rain Grove TYRES tend to tramline , camber steer , and get caught in tram & train tracks . But if your roads lack straights & rail tracks , and are well maintained ,
tt100s would be good value , more so with a 4.25 18 ( same circumferance as 4.10 19 ) REAR . 18 frontsthen were common . SS Dukes , Laverdas etc . The Later often with TT100s on a 500 Lb Motorcycle.
The worlds Fastest Stock , 142 odd .
The R Carcasis vastly racier , being less bump absobing . Thus Scratching AND Touring . A Tec Rep should know the current status . KR 76s ( Malcolm Uphills 1970 I.o.M. triple - Pre Disc ) AND the F-750s
Par Tick U Lar Ly . were available again , for a time . Originally one of three was for Hot Days in S. Africa , and is a spot to striff for cloudy days , let alone the damp . Other two were UK summer & winter .

If ytou want to grasp pine branches in your teeth , and wet your pants , the 70s Pirrelli Dirt Track Tyres will accomodate those desires . Soft Track US TT / Oval tyre .
the KR 70 was leathal with the TT100 rear on a trident , leant , if you had call to pull up hasteilly .
however , this , the std ' hard / Groove ' US TT / Oval track tyre was prewtty good for hooning rather than scratching , are not low profile , and current ( 3.25 19 & 4.00 eighteen or 3.5 19 , but NOT on the BACK,
THANKYOU , would be excellent all road ( Wot Road ? ! I S D T type all round with good grip and drive on gravle , dirt , and Tarmac , But tyre NOT trigonic & dont have twivce as much rubber down LEANT , as
Upright - in fact the opposite . But Like a hard chine yacht have good lateral grip leant on unsealed surfaces , good predictability , and a degree of throttle steer / Drift at MODERATE leans , on tarmac .
Kissing the rests is about the limit , on sealed roads anyway , but upright seated vast reasurance IF you ride with a degree of reserve rather than holding on by the skin of your teeth ,
a KR 76 front & 4.25 K81 rear , youd want there . And youd be dicarding surpluss electrics like starters & indicators and overweight silencers .
I guessyour not 18 and determined to discard Hondas aft .
Overtyreing itll stogy up things , tyres should have a bit of tread down , leant . The I.o.M. Guage was 50 ? degrees lean clearance , rider aboard , I think , to accomodate the odd whump well leant ,
so as not to lever the tyres off with the fairing , youll see they all kissed , full lean , on Triumphs there .

so Study some olde I.o.M. Works Entry pictures , and the R 3 I.o.M & T150 Marshals bikes . THAT should be adequate , with half a dozen good rocks in your top pocket , to ward off tin tops intent on your line .
Also The then 7 current F 750 triples , perhaps . a 18 rear two up and touring will give greater load rating and leant , clearance , as wider , for the Same Height .

COR .
 
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