Short or Long Silencers

trident sam said:
John,
My Cali 50th came with de cat pipes and long open silencers, just how I wanted.
I guess it isn't as quite as loud as the shorties, but on a long run I find that an advantage.
sam
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Really? My 50th is supplied with the de cat, which the dealer is fitting. But he implied the long pipes are restricted. If they weren't I would be well happy too.
 
thesixthelephant said:
No. They are too short, Plus that Ugly looking Bike doesn't have enough Shock Absorbers, Plus, You don't do Drugs:D. I now think we need separate forums for Long, Short, Domi and Aftermarket Pipes as well as Black Vs Shiny :p:p
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Its a flipping bunfight in here lol :p
 
Glenn Harman said:
Really? My 50th is supplied with the de cat, which the dealer is fitting. But he implied the long pipes are restricted. If they weren't I would be well happy too.
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Well maybe it's changed from when I bought mine.
I bought the bike from the factory in September, they fitted the de cat pipes and long open silencers (as well as re map) from brand new. I had to pay extra for the de cat pipes though.

I have the original stuffed up long silencers (came with the bike) and cat pipes here still in their original wrapping.
sam
 
Glenn Harman said:
Really? My 50th is supplied with the de cat, which the dealer is fitting. But he implied the long pipes are restricted. If they weren't I would be well happy too.
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Glen, your 50th would have come from the factory with both Euro 4 compliant silencers and what they call open exhausts for off-road use. The decat pipe is also included as part of the 50th package. So the dealer should have two sets of ‘silencers’. The long open (as well as the short open) have a short section of small diameter pipe acting as a baffle at the entry. This may be what the dealer means as restricted? The shorts are louder because they are short. Some of us had the factory replace the front baffle with a straight through pipe but this is best done at manufacture. This makes the open longs sound like the open shorts but with a bit more bass!
Bottom line is that the dealer should be fitting the decat and the two open longs together with the right ecu map and handing you the bike together with a large box containing the cat pipe and two silencers. The 50th also has billet levers, bar end mirrors, cover and paddock stand so the box should contain these. If fitted, you should have the standard levers and mirrors in the box.
Hope this helps, Roger
 
Fredvincent said:
Glen, your 50th would have come from the factory with both Euro 4 compliant silencers and what they call open exhausts for off-road use. The decat pipe is also included as part of the 50th package. So the dealer should have two sets of ‘silencers’. The long open (as well as the short open) have a short section of small diameter pipe acting as a baffle at the entry. This may be what the dealer means as restricted? The shorts are louder because they are short. Some of us had the factory replace the front baffle with a straight through pipe but this is best done at manufacture. This makes the open longs sound like the open shorts but with a bit more bass!
Bottom line is that the dealer should be fitting the decat and the two open longs together with the right ecu map and handing you the bike together with a large box containing the cat pipe and two silencers. The 50th also has billet levers, bar end mirrors, cover and paddock stand so the box should contain these. If fitted, you should have the standard levers and mirrors in the box.
Hope this helps, Roger
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I had to pay extra for the de cat pipes, if I remember correctly £320.
sam
 
Glenn Harman said:
There’s obviously no clear winner. :D
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Because the oringinal commando had long pipes I was leaning towards having the the long open ones at the first service ,but having heard the shorties on other bikes at the factory I opted for the short ones , where bouts R U in the UK Glenn ?
 
trident sam said:
Well maybe it's changed from when I bought mine.
I bought the bike from the factory in September, they fitted the de cat pipes and long open silencers (as well as re map) from brand new. I had to pay extra for the de cat pipes though.

I have the original stuffed up long silencers (came with the bike) and cat pipes here still in their original wrapping.
sam
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Cheers Sam, that explains it, you having to pay for the long open pipes.
Fredvincent said:
Glen, your 50th would have come from the factory with both Euro 4 compliant silencers and what they call open exhausts for off-road use. The decat pipe is also included as part of the 50th package. So the dealer should have two sets of ‘silencers’. The long open (as well as the short open) have a short section of small diameter pipe acting as a baffle at the entry. This may be what the dealer means as restricted? The shorts are louder because they are short. Some of us had the factory replace the front baffle with a straight through pipe but this is best done at manufacture. This makes the open longs sound like the open shorts but with a bit more bass!
Bottom line is that the dealer should be fitting the decat and the two open longs together with the right ecu map and handing you the bike together with a large box containing the cat pipe and two silencers. The 50th also has billet levers, bar end mirrors, cover and paddock stand so the box should contain these. If fitted, you should have the standard levers and mirrors in the box.
Hope this helps, Roger
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Hi Roger. Yes it halps thanks! Yes there are two sets of silencers. The short ones are currently fiited, but he will supply the long ones too. The decat section is also included, which will be fiited and cat section supplied loose. He hasn't mentioned anyting about ECU remapping. Cover, mirrors and paddock stand have also been mentioned. The std mirrors just have to go. I will have to make a list of what I expect to be supplied.
 
BLIGHTYBRIT/SF said:
Because the oringinal commando had long pipes I was leaning towards having the the long open ones at the first service ,but having heard the shorties on other bikes at the factory I opted for the short ones , where bouts R U in the UK Glenn ?
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I'm near Reading, Berks. Bike is coming from Kickstart in Port Talbot.
 
Either will make it sound like it should. The shorties sound raspy like an Italian bike. The longs sound deep and throaty....and LOOK like they should. Long!!
 
Welcome Glen.
I'm just down the road from you in High Wycombe and also got my bike from Kickstart. Really nice guys and provide a good service.
Shorties all the way......but Megaphones a la Dommie would be my first choice, if only factory did them for the Commando.
I met a chap at Kop Hill last year who's also nearby. Would be nice to meet up when you get your bike.
I've got Mothers Day duties tomorrow so will miss the Dorking meet, but am looking forward to some other excuses to meet up with others from Hone Counties.
 
RVR961 said:
Welcome Glen.
I'm just down the road from you in High Wycombe and also got my bike from Kickstart. Really nice guys and provide a good service.
Shorties all the way......but Megaphones a la Dommie would be my first choice, if only factory did them for the Commando.
I met a chap at Kop Hill last year who's also nearby. Would be nice to meet up when you get your bike.
I've got Mothers Day duties tomorrow so will miss the Dorking meet, but am looking forward to some other excuses to meet up with others from Hone Counties.
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Thanks! Good to hear that about Kickstart, I went over there week before last to see the bike. Very nice guys and Charles has been great. They are delivering to me week after next. Yeah megaphones would be great, louder the better. My ride route is usually Reading out to Henley and beyond. Would be good to catch up sometime :)
 
Long open all the way, or it won’t match that 750 Commando that my wife won’t let me have!

Had the innards removed from the original strangled longs and the cats removed also. Original Commando look, beautiful throaty sound, bike idles beautifully, breathing as the motorcycle gods intended.

Steve
 
Wind the old girl up to 6.5k, snick between 3rd and 4th as the twisties dictate, keep on the throttle, ride like the devil is on your tail and soak up that beautiful howl from the shorties..... then try to hide your embarrassment in the next town when the engine noise dominates once again. One day I will try for a set of custom mades but for now the shorties are aok.
 
Stephen_Spencer said:
Long open all the way, or it won’t match that 750 Commando that my wife won’t let me have!

Had the innards removed from the original strangled longs and the cats removed also. Original Commando look, beautiful throaty sound, bike idles beautifully, breathing as the motorcycle gods intended.

Steve
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Hi Steve. I like the idea of removing the longs innards. I will try the shorties with cats removed, with the aim of getting those longs sorted too. I too fancy a 750, get a lock up garage that the wife doesn’t know about!
 
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