S timing cover minus the NORTON logo
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Youd never know what theyd get upto .
Though I think theres a picture of one as you mention , on Access here , Somewhere .
Thus was the Triumph BSA Twin Leader Fr Brake FIRST a Dustall Option , or simultaeneously . :?
Though I think theres a picture of one as you mention , on Access here , Somewhere .
Thus was the Triumph BSA Twin Leader Fr Brake FIRST a Dustall Option , or simultaeneously . :?
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I have no special knowledge here at all, but I noticed the other day that, in Classic Bike, September 2010, p. 49, Bob Cakebread says 'Early bikes also went out with a plain timing cover but I subsequently designed the one with the Norton logo on it ...' My guess from that is that a timing cover with no logo but with the points housing might have to be a prototype, as the Norton logo appeared on timing covers before the points were moved to their final position in production. But what do I know?! :wink:
An irrelevant aside: Cakebread's a very unusual name, I only came across it once before in my life, at big school: the serjeant (yes it was spelt like that, and it meant something like 'caretaker-in-chief') was Mr Cakebread, I wonder if he was a relation – but he'd have been long gone by the time that piece was published in 2010 ...
An irrelevant aside: Cakebread's a very unusual name, I only came across it once before in my life, at big school: the serjeant (yes it was spelt like that, and it meant something like 'caretaker-in-chief') was Mr Cakebread, I wonder if he was a relation – but he'd have been long gone by the time that piece was published in 2010 ...
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NortonMKIIA850 said:
Maybe not so rare a name in Plumstead I have read this book, it is very good:
Bill Cakebread’s book, “Motorcycle Apprentice: Matchless in Name and Reputation” is unlike any we’ve seen—and we’ve seen quite a few considering the length of our Rider’s Library. Cakebread takes the reader inside the factory where AMC (Associated Motor Cycles Ltd.) built Matchless, AJS, Sunbeam (1938-43) and Norton motorcycles.
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SteveA said:
Yeah I wondered about that, my big school was in Wandsworth, which by London standards is a long way from Plumstead, but from another perspective it's very near indeed – it's very easy and fairly quick to travel by train between Wandsworth and Plumstead, via Waterloo/Waterloo East ...
I have just purchased one off ebay here in Australia. First one I have ever seen. Seller described it as a prototype S model timing cover. Exactly as you say...plain cover like the 1968 one but with the points housing and the number cast inside the cover being 06-1072 AB is exactly the same as the cover that has the Norton logo
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Maybe you bought the one fireflake was talking about ...? :wink:
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Looks like a modified 20M3S timing cover to me.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Timing-C...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Timing-C...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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That is indeed a fascinating historical website, and I've only just scratched the surface so far, thanks for the tip! http://www.workingatamc.london/index.html
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What amazed me was how many of the family names were known to me.. I lived in SE London for years.. clearly it was a deeply embedded factory.
And despite all the stories of the Brits struggling on with outmoded worn out plant with no investment.. it all looks pretty modern by the standards of the time
And despite all the stories of the Brits struggling on with outmoded worn out plant with no investment.. it all looks pretty modern by the standards of the time
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My dad was born in Charlton, I'm sure I'd have had much more fun as a kid if he'd worked for AMC instead of becoming a vicar! But he did ferry his young family around in a Matchless outfit. I have a very early memory of him making a carb gasket out of a cornflake box by the side of the road ... His dad, whose surname was Fish (long story), was a draughtsman, but I believe for some electrical company.
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My father was also born in Charlton & we lived in Plumstead, but sadly he wasn't into bikes. As for AMC looking reasonably modern, in the mid fifties the spent several million pounds with Alfred Herbert on new machine tools. The problem was they continued to make the same old parts on them!
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As I remember from 1967, the early Commandos had no Norton logos anywhere. The tank badge was the "Green Blob" which was killed off pretty quickly. It was initially replaced by a decal until the tank molds were revised to have a recess for a badge.
From a close look at the drawn illustration in the first post on this thread, I think it's showing a view of the inside of the cover. I don't remember if the 650SS I rode to/from work had the logo on its timing cover.
From a close look at the drawn illustration in the first post on this thread, I think it's showing a view of the inside of the cover. I don't remember if the 650SS I rode to/from work had the logo on its timing cover.
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frankdamp said:
Frank, you continue to get this back to front. The badge came first, then the decal.
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I believe the illustration you are referring to is in the second post (by Matt Spencer) however, the view is not only from the outside but it's a modified Dominator cover on the page of a Dunstall catalogue and therefore nothing to do with an 'S' Commando which was the first Commando model to have the points housing in the timing cover.
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