"Roadster" plain black decal

lo zio · Sep 25, 2014

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of respray my YELLOW '70 Commando, and the side covers whould also have the "Roadster" decal.
I am buying all other decals from Andover Norton in Vinyl, as they told me these are better quality.
The problem is that I cannot find any "Roadster" decal in plain black colour, neither in Vinyl nor in transfer/dryfix.

A company called Classic Transfers told me they can create it for me, but they need the exact size, font size, font type.....

Questions:
1) Do you know where I can source one?
2) If not, do you have a scan of this decal, or its dimensions?
3) can you confirm I can clear-coat Vinyl decals?

Thanks guys,

lo zio from Italy.

Rohan · Sep 25, 2014

There are at least several owners of the Type R here, so hopefully they can steer you in the right direction.

If you can find a bigger version of this pic,
may be able to scale the decal from the relative sizes of each.

No idea on clearcoating vinyl, that depends on the type of vinyl and clearcoat ?
Perhaps ask for a scrap offcut of vinyl, and ask your painter to try it first ?

kerinorton · Sep 25, 2014

lo zio said:
Hello everyone,

I am in the process of respray my YELLOW '70 Commando, and the side covers whould also have the "Roadster" decal.
I am buying all other decals from Andover Norton in Vinyl, as they told me these are better quality.
The problem is that I cannot find any "Roadster" decal in plain black colour, neither in Vinyl nor in transfer/dryfix.

A company called Classic Transfers told me they can create it for me, but they need the exact size, font size, font type.....

Questions:
1) Do you know where I can source one?
2) If not, do you have a scan of this decal, or its dimensions?
3) can you confirm I can clear-coat Vinyl decals?

Listen mate, don't use vinyl. It is rather thick and wont feather out with application of clear coat. Also if you don't clear coat it, the stuff will come of the tank when you spill petrol on it. I used it and now its come off the rhs of the tank. I didn't know it was vinyl when I bought it 20 years ago.

Dereck

Rohan · Sep 25, 2014

How long have Nortons been using vinyl stickers on the tank and sidecover logos. ?
The stickers on my 850 Mk 1 were vinyl from new, back in the 1970s.

daveparry · Sep 25, 2014

I used vinyl motifs sprayed over with 2 pack clear coat on my mates Honda tank several years ago and it still looks fine.

lo zio · Sep 25, 2014

I reckon that vinyls are more resistent to sun etc.
Decals I currently have (I guess not Vinyl ones) are broken by the sun...

The problem here is that I cannot find a plain BLACK "Roadster" decal, beither vinyl nor other material.
any suggestion?

auldblue · Sep 25, 2014

Try RGM they list one but by the looks it is an Andover product but maybe your vinyl guys can work off it for you.

J

DogT · Sep 25, 2014

http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/roadster ... r_3004.htm

If it's a single color, it's easy to make a stencil and paint it on.

lo zio · Sep 25, 2014

The ClassicTransfer guys are asking me whether it should be 113 mm x 11 mm (4.45 x 0.43 inches)
or 135 mm x 11 mm (5 1/2" x 7/16")

The one with Gold Outline from RGM measures 135x11 (the second size).

Is anyone owning a 70 Commando willing to measure it?

I would appreciate this a lot.

Thanks,
Alfredo

Rohan · Sep 25, 2014

In the advertising pic above, it looks like 'Roadster" is the same length as 'Commando'.

If RGM have Andover ones, it sounds like they are available....

lo zio · Sep 25, 2014

Rohan said:
In the advertising pic above, it looks like 'Roadster" is the same length as 'Commando'.

If RGM have Andover ones, it sounds like they are available....

Rohan my understanding is that RGM has that one with gold outline. I need a solid black one (unless I am mistaken).

I wonder how I am the only one having this issue. Did nobody ever respray a yellow Commando?

manx850 · Sep 25, 2014

I make Norton graphics, I have this one......send me your email I will send an image to see if you like it, they are based on original artwork, I think around 6.25" LONG.

manx850 · Sep 25, 2014

That length is the whole logo, not just ROADSTER Mine are in 3M vynil & can be clearcoated. A better way is to use a mask and spray the image then clearcoat, lasts longer looks better no ridges.....or spray the area black then apply a paint mask version of the artwork then spray the yellow and clearcoat. I could supply it that way also. Depends on whether you are a purist or not?

lo zio · Sep 26, 2014

Manx you saved me. I will pm you my email. Thanks

lo zio · Sep 26, 2014

Anyway, I am starting to doubt that the "Roadster" decal was in plain black.
Does anyone know if it was plain black or with gold outline on a yellow paintscheme???

thanks

auldblue · Sep 26, 2014

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-73-Norton- ... 0880239835

Here is another link that shows black roadster decals maybe you've tried it already.
J

lo zio · Sep 26, 2014

auldblue said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-73-Norton-Commando-Roadster-RESTORERS-DECAL-SETS-750cc-models-/200880239835

Here is another link that shows black roadster decals maybe you've tried it already.
J

I only see golden Roadster here

batrider · Sep 26, 2014

There was a plain black Roadster one used on the early Commandos like yours. I got one for my '72 (when it was yellow) for a short time until it fell off. The older decals were very thin and had a clear backing (not die cut) and after a while you could see a layer of dirt or wax around the outline.

auldblue · Sep 26, 2014

lo zio said:
auldblue said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-73-Norton-Commando-Roadster-RESTORERS-DECAL-SETS-750cc-models-/200880239835

Here is another link that shows black roadster decals maybe you've tried it already.
J

Click to expand...

I only see golden Roadster here

You have to scroll through the pictures to see the full inventory, but they are shown.
J

lo zio · Sep 26, 2014

auldblue said:
lo zio said:

auldblue said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-73-Norton-Commando-Roadster-RESTORERS-DECAL-SETS-750cc-models-/200880239835

Here is another link that shows black roadster decals maybe you've tried it already.
J

Click to expand...

I only see golden Roadster here

Click to expand...

You have to scroll through the pictures to see the full inventory, but they are shown.
J

yes, sorry, you're right.
Dunno about quality, I am waiting for the file from Manx, then I'm gonna get it stamped in vinyl by some guys in UK.
thanks!

"Roadster" plain black decal

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