restore cost....ouch!

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If ya the hard heart to hang on in 1st to 60 mph about all Cdo's can hit 60 mph in under 4 sec. Combat's with 19 or 20T sprocket sure can and if not careful on fast snick to 2nd it will spin a bit for some annoying hesitation in the acceleration - like clutch slip and noise might, but ain't. Thank goodness I'm not a machinist.
 
Sure they will Steve, just need to transplant a Triumph Daytona 955i or any other good modern litre Sportbike engine in there, under 4 seconds is quite doable.
Not with 49 rwhp tho, not a chance.
 
Glen, Thats a beast of a machine!
worntorn said:
Speaking of time spent tidying the lathe, I just purchased this 1943 Ex US Department of Defense Monarch 18.5" swing lathe. It is in terrific condition with almost no wear on the ways, however I am now into it for 60 hours of degreasing and painting. The entire lathe was coated in heavy grease and grime from years spent in the toolroom of a large Battleship of some kind. This prevented rust, but it would leave your hands covered in black grime after any contact with it.
It got a coat of Hammerite glass particle paint, now fitting a DRO to it, repair the coolant pump, run three phase wiring and begin to use.
It seemed like a good idea to get a larger capacity lathe, however I now need to live long enough to make it worthwhile!

Glen

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restore cost....ouch!


After much cleaning and painting with toxic but very tough paint-

restore cost....ouch!
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They sure didn't go cheap on any part of these brutes. The carriage has an oil sump and a cam operated oil pump with 10 individual copper pressure lines going to all wear areas of the saddle and cross slide. As you wheel the carriage, oil is pumped thru the lines to orifices so that everything rides on a film of oil. As long as this is kept functioning, the hardened ways will last forever. Too bad I won't :mrgreen:

Glen
 
Uh-hem... speaking of restoration costs Glen.

That is a nice looking piece of equipment though.
 
I know where there is a similar lathe sitting at a former employer unused since I worked there.

Hmm, I need to inquire about it.

NIce find.
 
bwolfie said:
I know where there is a similar lathe sitting at a former employer unused since I worked there.

Hmm, I need to inquire about it.

NIce find.
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The stumbling block for most of us is having 480 3 phase.
I am jeolous, although the little 110 3 in 1 Smithy I have does most anything for a motorcycle. Alloys are a piece of cake but it struggles with steels.
 
Worntorn, It never ceases to amaze me what actually inspires me to get going again. Just looking at the picture of your new lathe has made the urge return. I will go back into the shed today, and see what needs to be done to fire up the Seeley 850. I still intend to upload a start-up video. There is a ride day at Winton Raceway next Monday which I will be unable to attend, however 1st December is looking good for a try-out of the 6 speed TTI box.
 
I have a HF 12 X 36 right now. I struggled to machine my rear drum hub.

I've been chucking up larger and larger items. An upgrade is inevitable.

Unfortunately there is no 3 phase in our area.

It's 1/2 mile away in either direction. Only $15,000 to bring it into the shop :shock:

If it's not the cost of paying someone to do it it's the cost of buying the tools to do it yourself.
 
RennieK said:
Uh-hem... speaking of restoration costs Glen.

That is a nice looking piece of equipment though.
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A good lathe is part of MC restoration costs :mrgreen:
 
by DogT » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:27 pm

What would you call a new Brough that was assembled, dis-assembled and then re-assembled for better fitment?

I would call that an investment :D

Worntorn when you pop yer clogs can I have your lathe pleeeeeeze its a mighty fine machine you can do a lot on that!

CB
 
john robert bould said:
Wolfie, Depends what you intend to restore, ideal for steam engines...or trains. :lol:
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Yes a CNC mill would be much better, but I wouldn't mind a lathe too :D
 
Cnc not much use in my shop, almosr everything is a one off, the manual machines with DRO fitted and good tooling will do it all.
Cheshire Bloke, when Im done she's all yours. But you might have to argue with my Son- in - law a bit. I dont mind, I'll be dead :mrgreen:

If I was to manufacture a repeat product of some sort for sale, even fairly small batches, then CNC would be great.

Glen
 
worntorn said:
Cnc not much use in my shop, almosr everything is a one off, the manual machines with DRO fitted and good tooling will do it all.
Cheshire Bloke, when Im done she's all yours. But you might have to argue with my Son- in - law a bit. I dont mind, I'll be dead :mrgreen:

If I was to manufacture a repeat product of some sort for sale, even fairly small batches, then CNC would be great.

Glen
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CNC can do one offs...those parts you need but can't buy...manual mill is good to have too but software is so good today CNC can be faster. Then if you make something really cool you can sell it. :D
 
Yes Sir to the scale of what comes under the tools of restoration, up to almost locomotive size in this case. Ms Peel was a bit challenge to a non CNC tool die maker in the woods. Needed a rim cut deeper on a rear hub off a Water Buffalo so he put in vertical in a mill thingy vise and spun both dials at once while doing a sort of organ grinder monkey posture dance and spun the cutter around in a ring pattern, similar to drawing a perfect circle by Etch a Sketch knobs w/o letting go of em. This was the shop in the woods that offered me ATV or 250 MX to keep up with their back woods play but instead got to give us all and some deer a treat of heavy British twin sounds in the woods and ravines. Peel was in only paint restore mode then - before stuck throttle turned her into slow grind really expensive renewal away from about all things really Norton. It could happen to you too w/o any intention but some infections are like that, insidious.
 
Sounds like a rotary table. Poor man's CNC...used to be the only way before CNC.
 
Rotary table?, sounds like a base mount made to turn, but in Peels hub case the base mount stayed still but seems the mill head had some kind of extension that offset the cutter spin from the main arbor axis. I am always fascinated by metal workers, unless its my work, with hammers, levers bench grinder, hacksaw and hand drill. Hope your foundation is up to the load.
 
worntorn said:
RennieK said:
Uh-hem... speaking of restoration costs Glen.

That is a nice looking piece of equipment though.
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A good lathe is part of MC restoration costs :mrgreen:
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Well, with what interest rates are today you're better off having equipment like that around than it's value in some long term account. 10 years later it's still worth what you paid and you've likely earned more from it than what you'd have gotten through bank interest. Not to mention the pleasure and satisfaction you get.

Regarding 3 phase power, it's often not a matter of what it costs you to get it to you, it's IF the power authority feels you're a worthy enough customer to warrant the hook up. They want their 3 phase customers to consume loads of it.
 
hobot said:
Rotary table?, sounds like a base mount made to turn, but in Peels hub case the base mount stayed still but seems the mill head had some kind of extension that offset the cutter spin from the main arbor axis. I am always fascinated by metal workers, unless its my work, with hammers, levers bench grinder, hacksaw and hand drill. Hope your foundation is up to the load.
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Yes a rotary table is just that. Mounts to the mill and rotates...but that was sort of what you described...now it sounds like he was using a fly cutter and moving the table under it to clean up the surface.
 
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