Rear sets by NYC norton vs CNW pieces

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hey i want some feedback on who’s running Kenny’s ( NYC Norton ) rear sets
And who’s running Matt’s ( CNW ) opinions...observations and anything you’d want to tell me that would help make me decide on which would be best for a guy who has both sets,, I’m not as young as I once was but I don’t frown on scraping my shoe once in al while ,,,,,,let’s hear it pros cons please
 
CNW's rear sets are absolutely superb and, IMO, worth every penny of their price. I purchased/installed a set a little over a year ago and they would rank among the best things I ever did to my Commando for my riding style/comfort. Not to mention that they are show quality if that is of interest (it wasn't to me).
 
I use Norvil so comments based on past catalogue surfing only.
I believe cNw's only fit to their custom Z plates. On the plus side the rear brake cable mount is very neat and looks to have a good ratio.
NYC seem to make the same mistake as Norvil - the cable attachment arm is too long for the shortened brake lever length, braking will be only half as good as stock at best. I redrilled my Norvil one to get a better ratio but it is still poor.
 
First thing I’d say is either is a good choice. I used Norvil for a while but was always fighting the gear lever and / or kickstart positions. And the brake leverage was shit. They just seemed compromised.

The cNw ones are indeed exquisite things. They have the advantage of coming with their own dedicated Z plate replacements too, so are definitely the most ‘complete’ package out there. The rear brake cable mechanism is fabulous, it’s all built inside the pedal / footrest, even the brake light switch! The gear lever is designed to compliment the foot pegs position and it give a good change. Many others that use a reverse lever set up end up with the lever at an odd and awkward to use angle. Before I went to a TTI box, the cNw set up gave the best gear change on my bike. The footrests on the cNw are also large, sensibly so for big booted road bike users.
Down sides? They are only for right hand change / drum brake bikes. They are only available with a reverse lever gear-change, not with a linkage. Their chunky design might not appeal to those wanting a more racer like aesthetic. I don’t think you can run pillion pegs.

The NYC ones are also very nicely made kit. They are a lighter weight more ‘race bike’ style. They bolt onto your existing Z plates, which does mean they have a bit of a ‘bolt on extra’ look to them. They come with a linkage and probably need the T160 style kick start lever (or e start) to work properly.

I used the cNw ones when I was running ‘normal’ pipes etc. When I went to a Brooking 850 Maney replica pipe, I didn’t need the Z plates for silencer mounts and I didn’t need the brake cable arrangement as I use a straight rod. I therefore ended up using NYC parts to make up my own version, which is what I’m currently running.
 
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I currently have the NY Norton rear sets.

I used to have a set of the Clubman type, of unknown manufacture for many years. I also recently had a set of Don Pender Dunstall repops that I just moved on.

The NYN ones are a very nice kit, excellent build quality. The brake pedal leverage is very good, and the shifting is very smooth.

I do have a couple of small niggles with them.

1 - they use a mix of metric and unified threads. I wish they would have just stuck with unified threads to make things simpler.

2 - you must use a T160 style RGM kicker, a stock kick start will not work. So you need to factor that into costs.

3 - it is a design primarily adapted for race bikes, and there are a couple different mounting plate profiles that Kenny offers.

The older (standard?) one has a foot peg position that is a bit lower and foward, about an inch or so. I find it more comfortable with my long legs.

But, I found the toe position cramped behind the large knuckle of the RGM kicker so that you are shifting on the end of the boot. No kicker on your race bike? No problem.

Also, running peashooters I found my heel often rested on the muffler and left a bit of melted skiddie. Running a Maney, Brooking 850 2EX1 or S-type exhaust? No problem.

Kenny now offers a plate that moves your foot peg back and up an inch or so. Fixes the above issues. I dont find it as comfortable as the originals, the Clubman or Dunstall, but my legs are very long - 36" inseam. Many may not have this issue.

For a long trip, I would likely look at putting the older plates back on and living with the toe crowding, since I run a 2EX1. Or, making a custom plate like Nigel.
 
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I have the Madass rearsets. I use them with a rear facing shift lever although a linkage, that works well, comes with the kit. I had to go to the reverse lever because the TTI box I had is a Triumph pattern and I want to stay with the standard Norton pattern.They work well enough my main complaint is the lack of leverage for the rear brake. However the rear brake is a sorry excuse at best so you have to consider that.
 
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