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RE Continental GT

Discussion in 'General Classic Motorcycle Discussion' started by acotrel, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. Chris

    Chris VIP MEMBER

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    Hi Acrotel

    No, nobody at Scruteneering checks the gears but if you race with someone you can tell how many gears they have in the box.
    As long as your eligibility card matches the bike you have to be scrutineered your sorted. Any changes to specification must be fed back to eligibility.
    Why cheat? we are only club racers.

    Chris
     
  2. acotrel

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    Chris, I agree with you - why would anyone bother to chea t? - a win under those circumstances is not a win. There were two men who started the Historic racing in Australia, both non-racers but members of the Velocette Owners Club. One of them had worked in QUB developing two strokes. I had a discussion with him in our local pub a few years ago about the cheating in Historic racing. His attitude was that in the old days the factories did it so it is OK. In everything we do we should commence as we intend to continue. The problem is that we don't usually run the old capacity classes, so big is always better. CB750 Hondas dominate the class I would have to race in if I went historic racing again, they are often 1100cc. The biggest you can easily make a commando is 920cc and you have half the number of valves. The Hondas can be beaten, however with extreme difficulty.
     
  3. acotrel

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    Rohan, Australians are funny about Pommies. We are the same people except the ones who came here in the 1800s were usually convicts. We have to beat them every time, and we are such good winners. I was embarrassed the other day when we won the cricket and our guys started making disparaging remarks about the opposing team - not the way to be winners.
    The attitudes have been entrenched since before we had the current major immigration programme. I've been to the UK two times and I recognize and acknowledge superiority. It is not the cultural cringe, just accepting the truth. When you speak to most Englishmen they know exactly what you have said to them - that is not always the case in Australia. The way they do the nostalgia kick is superb.
     
  4. Rohan

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    We hope you are listening to ABC Radios cricket commentary. ?
    The TV one is hopeless. (tailored to a domestic audience may be a better description).
    (Although we diverge)

    We are not surprised you found them superior.
    They must be mind readers though, half the time YOU don't seem to know what you are saying or have said ?!?
    e.g.

    I've been to such a day at Amaroo Park - that would be quite some decades ago now.
    While this is quite a small circuit, and venue, was quite good.
    How long has Goodwood been going, Amaroo may even have preceeded it ?
    Having a big budget, a big audience and a big venue may help somewhat...
     
  5. acotrel

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    I think Amaroo was around long before the reincarnation of Goodwood. It is just that we have never taken the approach towards historic racing which Lord March has. Obviously a big heap of money helps a lot when you plan an event, however the important word is PLAN. The events which are held at Goodwood are designed to promote real interest in auto racing history, and not about a modern version of historic racing for its own sake. I watched the fifties bikes race there in 2008 and loved it, I cannot really say that about most of what I've seen recently in Australia. Some of the superbike events are good, however historic racing is a real turn-off for me. I like the bikes, however the racing is nothing near sensible, except for only one class - period 3 500s. I'm certain we can do it better - Goodwood is proof of that.
    I think some of the racing at Brand's and Oliver's Mount might be excellent - I don't believe I will ever be lucky enough to get there to see for myself.

    Amaroo is finished now, however there is video up on Youtube showing Surtees, Saunders and Maher racing historic bikes there in about 1983. In fact in NSW I think only Easter Creek and Wakefield Park remain in operation. The car club with which our bike club is affiliated has a stake in each.
     
  6. Rohan

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    That event at Amaroo was all about historic vehicles and history, there was no racing as such.
    Seeing sports cars and race cars and a fullblown Formula 5000 on show etc etc, AND circulating on the track for a demo run was an unforgettable sight.
    Don't know if a full field of F5000 cars ever raced there, that thing looked like enough of a handfull on its own...
     
  7. acotrel

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    F5000s have raced at Winton on the old circuit - that is about the same size as Amaroo. Even so they are a scary thing - too much weight at the rear. A friend of mine was tops in them and his strange mate still has one in our town - I believe there is still Trans Tasman races for them at some historic meetings - they are really inspiring , make your nerves tingle just watching them.
     

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