Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?

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So either my kickstand or the mounting tab are bent, because the little knob that rests against the frame doesn't even come close to clearing the exhaust. I don't think it's the mount, and if it is, i certainly don't want to bother fixing it. I feel like i won't use the kickstand a lot. snapped two photos, everything is installed correctly yes? My only other thought is to cut the knob off so it clears the exhaust.
Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?

Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?
 
Usaually it's the other way around with the rubber getting stuck under the frame when the bolt/bush gets loose.
 
What brand head pipes are those? they look low/in. Don't cut the knob off, it needs a rubber damper on it once we solve the alignment issue. How loose is the bush? Can you push the stand down and around the pipe? (just to get an idea how much slop in the bush)
The stand itself could be bent. As for the frame bracket, it could be bent, do you have access to a magnetic protracter? OldBritts shows 18 degrees from horizontal in this drawing: http://www.oldbritts.com/38_200002.html simply hold the bike level, (or use mainstand) and meaure what you have, then you'll know.
I use the stand every time I get off the bike. They're on there for a reason, VERY handy :lol:
 
concours said:
What brand head pipes are those? they look low/in. Don't cut the knob off, it needs a rubber damper on it once we solve the alignment issue. How loose is the bush? Can you push the stand down and around the pipe? (just to get an idea how much slop in the bush)
The stand itself could be bent. As for the frame bracket, it could be bent, do you have access to a magnetic protracter? OldBritts shows 18 degrees from horizontal in this drawing: http://www.oldbritts.com/38_200002.html simply hold the bike level, (or use mainstand) and meaure what you have, then you'll know.
I use the stand every time I get off the bike. They're on there for a reason, VERY handy :lol:

I think the exhaust is all original? Bike belonged to my dad since the mid 70's and as far as I know most everything is original on it. Here's a few shots of the exhaust on it now. I seem to rember the stand clearing the exhaust before I took the bike apart, it scraped the underside of the exhaust just a bit, but nothing like this. It had all sorts of random nuts and bits holding it on, so I ordered new stuff from old britts including the spacer and ended up with this.

Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?


Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?
 
Looks good! When you re-assembled the exhaust, is it "tucked up" as far as it will go? Like all the bolts loosened, pushed up before tightening? Did you replace the isolastic mounts?
 
concours said:
Looks good! When you re-assembled the exhaust, is it "tucked up" as far as it will go? Like all the bolts loosened, pushed up before tightening? Did you replace the isolastic mounts?
I did replace the iso's. I'll have to mess with the exhaust and see if it comes up at all
 
Holding the pipes in the desired position while tightening the hardware may solve your problem.

Every time I do mine without thinking about it, my kickstarter fouls my right pipe (and leaves idiot-marks). A do-over fixes it right up (but not the marks... :oops: )

Best of luck and do let us know how you make out.
 
I think it just a matter of adjusting the pipes to get them up as high as possible. Also check how you've mounted the side stand, there are two washers, a bushing, bolt and nut that hold the arm to the pivot.

The bolt the holds the kick stand arm on is a special bolt with a really thin head, 06-2872, about 1/2 the thickness of the head in the pick. This is to clear the return spring, which will catch on the bolt you have.

As for the bumper, I got a 4-pack of link bushings at the local auto parts store for like $4. They fit right over that little post, and after a year or two when when the bush starts to get soft from chain oil, pop it off and stick another one on.
 
In answer to the question "how often do you use your kickstand" , I use mine nine out of ten stops when out on the road. If parking the bike for the night I use the centre stand, but thru the day when stopping for meals, a look at the map, change in or out of rain gear, etc etc, the side stand gets used. Not sure if the earlier Commandos are the same, but the side stand on the MK3 is a very good design, big solid and easy to use.
In comparison the stand on the 650SS is OK, but not doesn't feel as secure and the side stand(s) on the Vincent are useless and dangerous.

Glen
 
kevbo82 said:

The stand is higher than it should be at that point, so I din't think it's the exhaust system at fault. It certainly looks more like either the bracket or the stand (or both) are bent.

Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?


Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?
 
I think the pipe is low, you know why LES? Because he said it fit before he took the exhaust off...
 
swooshdave said:
I think the pipe is low, you know why LES? Because he said it fit before he took the exhaust off...

I don't think I agree. Going by the photos, I'd say kevbo's is actually at a higher level than mine. The peg should at least be below the level of the frame tube at that position, and clearly it is not. At the angle the stand swings up at, that peg is likely to miss the frame completely. Either something is bent, or maybe the pivot bolt is not the correct diameter?
 
I hate to see you mess with that nice powder coating on that bracket but this really begs to either be refitted or heated up and tweaked. I think heating the stand itself is a bad thing, but the bracket is just mild steel.

Thats one thing about powdercoating, you hate to mess with it.

Speaking of powdercoating, are the surfaces clear of any residual?

You better show us a picture showing how it fits without the pipes.
 
took a moment to fiddle with the exhaust, got it a touch higher, and it improved things a bit. It may be a perfect storm of a little bit of everything causing this, to my eye the timing side exhaust looks like it sits a tad higher in relation to the frame than the primary side, so maybe i'll keep messing with it.
Problem with kickstand, how often do you use yours?
 
Good news, bad news.
Good news, your exhaust seems fine.

The bad news,
The stand is not right. The angle is too high. It may have retracted with the exhaust was off but I doubt it ever rested proper on the frame.
That bracket was a aftermarket unit from Old Britts. Right?
I put one on my bike also. Yours seem to be welded up/mounted improperly. Sorry.
 
pvisseriii said:
Good news, bad news.
Good news, your exhaust seems fine.

The bad news,
The stand is not right. The angle is too high. It may have retracted with the exhaust was off but I doubt it ever rested proper on the frame.
That bracket was a aftermarket unit from Old Britts. Right?
I put one on my bike also. Yours seem to be welded up/mounted improperly. Sorry.
nope, only things i replaced was the spacer, bolt, nut, washers. I don't know if my dad ever had any repairs done to the mount. See my next post for what i found/think the problem is
 
kevbo82 said:
okay, so i think i found the issue. Mostly due to my ignorance of all things norton. Bike is a 73 750, after looking around online today, i realized that the exhaust in the mkIII style that uses the collets, and according to this listing, was made to clear a larger primary on the MKIII

That shouldn't affect the operation of side stand (mine is a Mk3 after all).

I suggest you remove the pipe and try? I think the peg would miss the frame.
 
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