Prices gone up - of course you all knew that!! BUT

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dennisgb said:
Today the value bikes, the ones you can pick up cheap are the old sport bikes. Technically they are still relative and light years ahead of a Norton. Water cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, 100+ HP out of a 600cc bike. Not everyone's cup of tea but interesting none the less.
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That's what the guys in AHRMA are counting on for the NexGen class(es). Opened up a whole new group of people and bikes to vintage roadracing.

I have an '83 Honda VF570F that I can POSSIBLY race this year; time will tell if I have funds to do the traveling (1350 miles round trip to NOLA).

I don't think AHRMA is going to be a significant factor in the market prices of eligible NexGen bikes, but it may be a contributing factor in the areas surrounding AHRMA vanues...
 
But that is just the point, as time goes on stuff gets old.

A CB750 must have seemed like a spaceship in '69 with all the tech!
Not people wax poetic about how simple it is.
 
grandpaul said:
dennisgb said:
Today the value bikes, the ones you can pick up cheap are the old sport bikes. Technically they are still relative and light years ahead of a Norton. Water cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, 100+ HP out of a 600cc bike. Not everyone's cup of tea but interesting none the less.
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That's what the guys in AHRMA are counting on for the NexGen class(es). Opened up a whole new group of people and bikes to vintage roadracing.

I have an '83 Honda VF570F that I can POSSIBLY race this year; time will tell if I have funds to do the traveling (1350 miles round trip to NOLA).

I don't think AHRMA is going to be a significant factor in the market prices of eligible NexGen bikes, but it may be a contributing factor in the areas surrounding AHRMA vanues...
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I think you mistyped the model (VF750F). Cool bike :D
 
Just as an example from my part of the known world, if I look back maybe 5-8 years, the "normal" price for a Norton in good running order was around $4500-5000, US that is. That I thought was a bit pricey, but today we see prices at around $9000. Still think it´s a bit pricey, should have bought a couple of bikes for borrowed money...... :(
Tommy
 
In my experience, Norton's have always cost a bit more than Sportsters, Triumphs and BSAs.
Nortons were like BMWs.... The bikes that rich guys rode.

Growing up poor (I still am), all of the Honda CB's models were plentiful and affordable.
I have owned probably about 20 of them over my life because they could be bought for 50 or 100 bucks
and sometimes even free.
The SOHC 750 is still one of my all time favorite bike engines.

For those UJM's, It was usually just....
. clean the carbs
. replace the battery
. fix whatever the previous owner screwed up
. ride it
. sell it
. repeat

I have paid my rent more than a few times with those CB 750's.
I wouldn't mind having another one today, but I won't pay what people are asking for now.

BTW.....
22 years ago I traded a CB 750 for the 75 MK3 that I have right now.
 
Building from scratch may not be so bad when I'm getting offered bikes in bits for £7k of which most will need replacing anyway.
 
Mark wrote: In my experience, Norton's have always cost a bit more than Sportsters, Triumphs and BSAs.
Nortons were like BMWs.... The bikes that rich guys rode.

Here in Sweden Harleys have always been very expensive, ever since the 70:s anyway. In the 70:s and 80:s Brit bikes were much cheaper, and still today despite the huge amounts of Harleys that´s been imported the last 10-20 years they are still expensive. People have bought in to the whole "lifestyle" b-llsh-t.
Tommy
 
This past spring I took a friend to Ducati dealership to buy a new 2014 Multi S .... he asked what they would give him for his 1999 Sportster 1200 custom with 6000km on it .... they did not want it and still got full price out of him for the Multi ... I paid $3500 CAD for the Commando I have now ,15 years ago .... deal was , had to pass inspection .... which it did .... seller was mechanic and put a pass on it .... I'm not sure what I have spent on it since .... good estimate would be $10,000 CAD .... and I doubt I can sell it here for that .... although I have never tried ... it get's passed on to my son .... the Duc goes to my daughter as she does have her M/C ticket ...
Craig
 
all the prices are going up, i paid £5750 not to long ago for my 850 but have recently seen prices up at 8k 10k, as has been stated commandos seem to be in the fashion at the moment (john lewis used one in the christmas advert)
i would say I've been fortunate with a couple of purchases and bought before the prices have gone silly.
we thought paying £3500 for an old panther m100 (a year or so ago) and now you can't seem to get a basket case for that money.
long gone are the days of a cheap bike, Bantams are fetching over 1k and an engine less project recently sold for what a complete bike would have went for 5 years ago.

of course everybody jumping on the investments bandwagon may well be in for shock when the market falls but i don't see this happening any time soon, at the moment british bikes appear to be better than money in the bank.
 
When is my 1965 John Deere 2020 going to become worth something?
 
There are a lot of old tractors around here that are not appreciating much in value any longer.
One explanation given is that the people interested in the vintage/antique stuff are "aging out" of the hobby.
Sounds plausible.

Maybe that translates into the increased interest in Nortons and all of the 60's - 70's bikes.
The guys that wanted them as youngsters can now afford them, so they are buying them.
 
there is a Agriculture Machine Museum across the river from where I live .... full up with donated stuff I can barely figure out and folks around here seem to still be interested ...
Craig
 
I bought my Slimline Commando racer about 3-4 yrs ago for 5000€. It was not running because it hadn't been properly rebuilt, but basically the rolling chassis was ok-ish and nothing was too badly wrong with the engine. It had a few very nice features, including lightened crank (probably by Dunstall), flowed head and box section swingarm. I spent in the region of 4-5000€ to rebuild and improve the thing. I have been riding it on the road and race tracks with intense pleasure for about two years. It is a "man's bike".

A reputable vintage motorcycle trader has just offered me 20000€ for it.
I turned him down, even though I am not rich and actually in need of the money.
I am not ready to give away the pleasure of riding that great brutal beast just yet.
:mrgreen:
 
Jagbruno said:
I bought my Slimline Commando racer about 3-4 yrs ago for 5000€. It was not running because it hadn't been properly rebuilt, but basically the rolling chassis was ok-ish and nothing was too badly wrong with the engine. It had a few very nice features, including lightened crank (probably by Dunstall), flowed head and box section swingarm. I spent in the region of 4-5000€ to rebuild and improve the thing. I have been riding it on the road and race tracks with intense pleasure for about two years. It is a "man's bike".

A reputable vintage motorcycle trader has just offered me 20000€ for it. I turned him down, even though I am not rich and actually in need of the money.
I am not ready to give away the pleasure of riding that great brutal beast just yet.
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It's tough not to sell when you need the money. Proves true dedication.
 
Jagbruno said:
I bought my Slimline Commando racer about 3-4 yrs ago for 5000€. It was not running because it hadn't been properly rebuilt, but basically the rolling chassis was ok-ish and nothing was too badly wrong with the engine. It had a few very nice features, including lightened crank (probably by Dunstall), flowed head and box section swingarm. I spent in the region of 4-5000€ to rebuild and improve the thing. I have been riding it on the road and race tracks with intense pleasure for about two years. It is a "man's bike".

A reputable vintage motorcycle trader has just offered me 20000€ for it.
I turned him down, even though I am not rich and actually in need of the money.
I am not ready to give away the pleasure of riding that great brutal beast just yet.
:mrgreen:
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I have been offered $25,000 for my hot 850 Featherbed a few years ago, not intrested in the money, although I'm not a rich man, just the throught of selling somethink that my own 2 hands created all those years ago (35 years now) and improved over those years of riding it, you just can't get rid of that big smile off my face every time I ride it.

Ashley
 
Everything that I have is for sale.
All you need to do is catch me at the right time and offer me the the right price.
It's just stuff.
 
Mark said:
Everything that I have is for sale.
All you need to do is catch me at the right time and offer me the the right price.
It's just stuff.
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It might be just stuff to you but to me my Norton is my creation from my own ideas that were in my head at the time and being young at the time I built it having never built a bike from scrach with not much money, so most of everything on my 850 Featherbed was made by my hands without the right tools and for it to fire up first kick after the complete rebuild was something to be proud about, making lots of money was never important to me, plus I will never get the money back from what I have done to it and the time I have put into it in the 40 years I have owned my Norton, but I don't have trouble selling a bike I have built up for just that perpose to make money.

Ashley
 
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