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Power Commander V installed

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by pingu-nz, Jul 28, 2017.

  1. BritTwit

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    I believe it was DynoJet UK that do the installation.
    It was a test to see if an existing PC model could be adapted to work on a Norton 961.
    It was a success, and DynoJet UK decided not to introduce a separate dedicated 961 unit.
     
  2. pingu-nz

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    Hi there,

    I have just joined the forum, and I have some good news for you.

    I "donated" my 2011 961 Sport to Dynojet last month as a test mule for their Power Commander set up. A very professional and courteous business.

    I had the bike returned last week, and took it out for the first time this weekend.

    It is transformed! Much better fuelling between 2500 to 3000 rpm, and much smoother acceleration right to the limiter, in every gear ;) lol

    Dynojet provided me with the before and after power graphs, clearly showing the bike in standard state was running way too rich, and with a nice hike in rear wheel hp too. Interestingly the bike was making more hp than when Cycleworld Dynojet tested a 961, but then they wouldn't have thrashed it as hard as I have done on mine.

    I am well pleased, and no doubt soon Dynojet will have more details to share.

    Happy days

    Rojah

    Here is the post from other power commander installed
    Wonder if he is still on the site or owns the bike ?

    cheers
    Paul
     
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  3. pingu-nz

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    Anyone know if Rojah is still on forum?
     
  4. alldub

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    Just got this back from Dynojet uk


    Hi Stephen,

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    Unfortunately will will not be making a Power Commander for the 961. We
    have found too many inconsistencies from bike to bike to make production
    of a Power Commander viable.

    Best Regards

    Vicky

    Dynojet UK
     
  5. contours

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  6. pingu-nz

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    So to interpret , we cant sell 10,000 units so we wont be making it !!

    They already have a pc that fits,its just needs a new part number.
    It s only the base map that needs to be developed by dyno jet for the bike. which would normally be tweaked when installing on the bike by the tuner.

    cheers
    Paul
     
  7. BritTwit

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    Paul,

    You’re correct.

    Who cares if DynoJet decided to ignore the 961.

    We already know that the Beemer F800 PC can be made to work properly on the 961.

    Even if DynoJet introduced a dedicated 961 version, it would still require a dyno tune in order to dial it in on an owner’s bike for the specific exhaust, intake mods, region/altitude/etc.
     
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  8. Britfan60

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    bummer
     
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  9. Kiwi961

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    I've gone down the same track as Paul: opened up the air intake and running the Dominator map (Omex ECU). I made the air filter bracket out of carbon fibre as per pictures. Nike is running really well except for the annoying hunting at idle after a short ride. If it's turned off and back on again it idles perfectly but the hunting returns after a short time.
    Checked for vacuum leaks and cleaned idle solenoid. Buggered if I know what it is....
     
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  10. Kiwi961

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    How do upload pictures now? Seems to have changed.
     
  11. TonyA

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    IF you are VIP you can post directly. That's what I do now , the fee is small enough and makes participating easier. Otherwise you must use 3rd party hosting from a site that will allow this for free. Some of the members are on these sites like flickr.
     
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  12. pingu-nz

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  13. pingu-nz

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    I had the hunting with the commando maps , it didn't hunt with the dominator map so that's what I stuck with ,
    Are you able to load maps ?

    Then I went the next step and got the power commander ,and tuned to the larger airbox opening and dominator map ,
    If you go straight to a power commander and get custom fuel tune then the hunt should disapear and the bike will run sweet as it should .
     
  14. pingu-nz

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    :D
    Have a read Richards manual on throttle control, could possibly be a simple adjustment of the set screw
     
  15. Raphi

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    Check the two little black caps behind the injectors... if one is missing you may have a leak of air!
     
  16. TonyA

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    IMG_0673.JPG After 2014 the Norton throttle body had removed one of the inlet stubs from the casting. The remaining small inlet was plugged by a grub screw. The only inlet left is the large one which is used for the idle motor. Bottom image was sent to me by Richard-7 , the Top image is my bike . Notice the grub screw plugging the hole , much better then a rubber cap. But it is possible for this to fall out and leak .
    27771377161_def694fc22_k (2).jpg
     
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  17. BritTwit

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    Well, I replaced my battery the other day and discovered that on my 2013 CR I have absolutely no available space for placement of a PC.
    No room under the seat, or in the tail section, or under the fuel tank.
    Looks like owners with the dual seat models will have sufficient space under the seat due to the different design of the dual seat cowling.
    The forward section of the cowling on the solo seat 961 is constructed differently and is thicker and closer to the bottom of the seat pad, eliminating any free space for the PC.
    Likewise, there is no space under the tank near the frame. Space there is tighter than a gigolo’s pants. Tail section space is even tighter.

    I may just have to duct tape the damn thing to the top of the tank.

    #!*^$#%$
     
  18. Britfan60

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  19. Britfan60

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    Mount it on the back of the airbox.
     
  20. BritTwit

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    The PC needs to be mounted in a position that is secure from the effects of the weather.
    I don't see any practical solution to this issue other than cutting out a center section of the seat cowling big enough for the PC.
    Then velcoring the PC to the top of the airbox beneath the cowling.
    Similar to what pingu-nz did on his dual seat 961.

    I just don't want to cut or mutilate anything on this bike.
     
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