Points Ign Setup Value?

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I'm thinking to sell my original MKII 850 points setup. Not sure what to ask for it. What do these typically sell for in decent condition?
 
Funny you should ask, I found mine just and wondered if anyone still wanted it. Will be interested
to know if going back to original is fashionable.
 
Onder said:
Funny you should ask, I found mine just and wondered if anyone still wanted it. Will be interested
to know if going back to original is fashionable.
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I have heard of a few people going back to points on British bikes
I know one person that will not have electronic ignition
And he fitted points to a triumph t140e that came with electronic ignition as standard!
 
I put points in my P11 project, and just bought a complete points setup c/w housing for another ‘68 engine (ign behind the engine) for $100.00.
I know people that got fed up with electronic systems and went back to points.
 
I was considering going back to points ignition on my commando when my knee went and I could barely kick it over, general opinion was that I'd get a bigger spark with points at very low turnover speed
Further thoughts I had were to convert to manual advance on the points plate and do away with AAR unit
I've seen this done on a timing cover of a unit single BSA so should be possible as it's the same points housing/type
 
I replaced the Boyer that was on my bike when I bought it in '06 with the OEM points/AAU which was an improvement - easier starting, more midrange power, no issue with low battery. Subsequently I had no interest in E-ignition until the Trispark came out. I decided to try it because it essentially duplicated the OEM ignition curve. I installed the TS in '08 and it's been in place and totally trouble free since then. BUT...if it ever fails, I'm putting the OEM system back in; I will not replace the TS with another one or a different E-ignition.
 
baz said:
I was considering going back to points ignition on my commando when my knee went and I could barely kick it over, general opinion was that I'd get a bigger spark with points at very low turnover speed
Further thoughts I had were to convert to manual advance on the points plate and do away with AAR unit
I've seen this done on a timing cover of a unit single BSA so should be possible as it's the same points housing/type
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Points will fire an engine even when battery falls to 6-7 volts. Most, if not all electronic types will just,cough and bang at that voltage. (Unless you have a self generated electronic ingition system)
 
Bernhard said:
Points will fire an engine even when battery falls to 6-7 volts. Most, if not all electronic types will just,cough and bang at that voltage. (Unless you have a self generated electronic ingition system)
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I had a fuse blow on the road and at idle the voltage dropped to 7.5 volts. My TriSpark got me home and never skipped a beat.
 
Still got my unit in a coffee can for if & when the day arrives that my tremors abandon me. Had to get something which required no fiddling, but really preferred the original. Glad they're worth the effort of saving.
 
All the members that have suffered through the EI debates which, in a few cases, seemed to come close to drawing blood, have been exposed to the references to points ignition having a better advance curve. Additionally, as referenced above, a coil/points ignition may lessen the chances of a kick-back due to low voltage. Not many references to how often and how much of a PITA it is to replace points, keep the retaining/adjusting screws from buggering, and set the timing; while wondering, in may cases, where the condensers are and if/when they should be replaced; despite the fact that, when cars had points, we replaced plugs, points and condenser at the same time; too much anxiety for me. I'd rather call AAA...

Makes you wonder how EIs could ever have replaced points??

Good to know that these relics have some value, ' been wondering this from time to time as I have 6 complete units I have saved over the years just in case I ever got to Pebble Beach and some nosy judge asked me to remove the "points" cover...

Best :)
 
RoadScholar said:
Good to know that these relics have some value, ' been wondering this from time to time as I have 6 complete units I have saved over the years just in case I ever got to Pebble Beach and some nosy judge asked me to remove the "points" cover...

Best :)
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Had to think on that Pebble Beach reference a while. Having just re-watched Easy Rider lastnight, mind must have been in the drug smuggling mode...at first thought you might be saying the points cover was concealing contraban/wacky-tabbaky or some such. Now I think you meant bike is in a concourse event of some kind and EI is contraban ;-)

As for Easy Rider...it was a pretty good trick to use bike batteries to hold their stash....my devious mind immediately went to thoughts of how the Commando can start/run without a functional battery...;-)
 
I'm keeping mine just in case I sell the bike one day and it matters to the buyer. More likely, someone will one day have to clean out my shop and they will toss it in a bin cuz they have no clue what it is! Well, maybe all of my stuff fits that description.

As to keeping these units and going through the process of adjusting and timing, I've always loved things I can fix with simple tools. But now I'm old and getting on my knees to access the points is more than just a pain in the ass, although it probably hurts there too!
 
rvich said:
I'm keeping mine just in case I sell the bike one day and it matters to the buyer. More likely, someone will one day have to clean out my shop and they will toss it in a bin cuz they have no clue what it is! Well, maybe all of my stuff fits that description.

As to keeping these units and going through the process of adjusting and timing, I've always loved things I can fix with simple tools. But now I'm old and getting on my knees to access the points is more than just a pain in the ass, although it probably hurts there too!
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For myself, id prefer knowing the points unit is in use by someone else, rather than rusting away and gathering dust.
Now where did I put that boat anchor of an OEM horn?
 
E-ignitions are, of course, much more convenient than Norton OEM since - in theory, at least - once it's set you never have to fool with it again. However, postings here would lead many people to believe that Norton e-ignitions are not nearly as reliable as points/AAU! ;)
 
Tornado said:
I'm thinking to sell my original MKII 850 points setup. Not sure what to ask for it. What do these typically sell for in decent condition?
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They don't.
I just googled eBay worldwide, any category and the few listed were well used by the look of them and over US$100.

I still have two good units tucked away and doubt they would sell for more than $40 each if in near new condition and would thinks there are plenty gathering dust on shelves out there (or worse)

No doubt folk install a EI and the old bits go into storage or the bin.

List it in the For Sale here @ offers will (or might) answer your question.
 
I've got someone wanting to buy it but I wanted to know a ballparkfor it before getting back at him.
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They don't.
I just googled eBay worldwide, any category and the few listed were well used by the look of them and over US$100.

I still have two good units tucked away and doubt they would sell for more than $40 each if in near new condition and would thinks there are plenty gathering dust on shelves out there (or worse)

No doubt folk install a EI and the old bits go into storage or the bin.

List it in the For Sale here @ offers will (or might) answer your question.
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Pazon will post for free a Sure-Fire ignition for around US$120/C$155.
The AAU might be worth $60 if in great shape (otherwise a EI comes into play) and there is the round and round circle of ignition ?

Dare I say the buyer might be either a restorer to the last detail or 'budget minded given the low entry price to the world of minimal moving/wear parts E.I's.
You could ask for an offer, I vote it will in the $40 range.
 
Sold for $75 cdn plus half postage. Complete points and AA plate. Couldn't find the hold down bolt, my EI came with its own in use now.
 
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