Podtronics one Phase 200 W Regulator With Capacitor built in

pierodn · Sep 17, 2015

Hi.
I have to mount on my 1972 this powerbox but without the stock rectifier i am not sure what is the wire that goes to the warning light assimilator from the Podtronics.
The stock 1972 (as the previous 1971) system has the GY wire from alternator that goes to the rectifier and then goes on to the warning light assimilator.
With Podtronicsc you have to mount the two yellow wires to the alternator GY/WG wires and the other black wires on the switch and red wires on the ground.
What is the wires that from the podtronics goes to the warning light assimilator?
Thank you
Piero

Frankie17 · Sep 17, 2015

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if you have the original loom on your bike ? and is it PRE MK3

you should be able to use the original rectifier wiring to hook up the podtronics

green white / green yellow go to the stator CONNECT to yellow AC wires on the pod

brown / blue CONNECT to black on the podtronic ( for positive earth ) DO NOT FORGET TO REMOVE ORIGINAL ZENOR DIODE CONNECTOR TERMINAL AND ISOLATE

Red on the pod to CONNECT TO earth (if you are running positive earth )

the warning ligh assimilator is fed from the brow / blue wire which also links the original Zenor to the battery on the PRE MK3 MODELS

L.A.B. · Sep 17, 2015

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pierodn said:
The stock 1972 system has the GY wire from alternator that goes to the rectifier and then goes on to the warning light assimilator.
With Podtronicsc you have to mount the two yellow wires to the alternator GY/WG wires and the other black wires on the switch and red wires on the ground.
What is the wires that from the podtronics goes to the warning light assimilator?

The assimilator GY wire connects to alternator GY, same as for the standard wiring.

Frankie17 said:
the warning ligh assimilator is fed from the brow / blue wire which also links the original Zenor to the battery on the PRE MK3 MODELS

The assimilator "AL" terminal/wire connects to alternator green/yellow. There's no brown/blue feed to the 3AW (silver can) assimilator.

Deets55 · Sep 17, 2015

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Piero,
I found it to be a lot simpler to not use any of my bikes original wiring when connecting my Podtronics. I took the three alternator leads and connected them directly to the three yellow Podtronics wires. Then connected the black (-) and red (+) directly to the battery. Some people like to put a fuse in the battery connection line. For the assilator I spliced into any one of the alternator leads and connected that to the AL terminal on the assilator. Then just tape or shrink wrap the ends of all the unused wires. I got rid of the can type assilator and went to a solid state type unit because the stock can type uses a lot of power.
Pete

Frankie17 · Sep 17, 2015

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Before connecting check your diode wire weather it is BROWN / BLUE OR GREEN / YELLOW

on correct Euro spec genuine Lucas loom Blue / brown was used 1970-74 and green / yellow 1974 on

if you connect the GY on the 1970-74 loom you will subject the assimilator to AC current

L.A.B. · Sep 17, 2015

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Frankie17 said:
on correct Euro spec genuine Lucas loom Blue / brown was used 1970-74 and green / yellow 1974 on

Green/yellow [GY] has always been AC output from one side of the RM21 stator (white/green [WG] being the other.). Brown/blue [NU] is battery negative including 850 MkIII.

Frankie17 said:
if you connect the GY on the 1970-74 loom you will subject the assimilator to AC current

Which is how it is supposed to be connected as the 3AW assimilator runs off the AC output [GY].
http://www.nortonownersclub.org/support ... similators

Podtronics one Phase 200 W Regulator With Capacitor built in

pierodn · Sep 17, 2015

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Hi and thank you.
If you connect the warning light assimilator to the Yellow wire of Podtronics (i have one phase but is the same for three) that joint with GY that comes from stator you will have AC Alternating Current!!!!
In the stock wiring system the GY goes to the warning light assimilator not as AC directly from the Stator but as DC after from the rectifier.
To go to the warning light assimilator as DC you need a GY exit from the Podtronics and this item don’t have!
I think with this power box the warning light assimilator does not work.
What do you think about?
Ciao.
Piero

pierodn · Sep 17, 2015

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L.A.B. said:
pierodn said:

The stock 1972 system has the GY wire from alternator that goes to the rectifier and then goes on to the warning light assimilator.
With Podtronicsc you have to mount the two yellow wires to the alternator GY/WG wires and the other black wires on the switch and red wires on the ground.
What is the wires that from the podtronics goes to the warning light assimilator?

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The assimilator GY wire connects to alternator GY, same as for the standard wiring.

Frankie17 said:

the warning ligh assimilator is fed from the brow / blue wire which also links the original Zenor to the battery on the PRE MK3 MODELS

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The assimilator "AL" terminal/wire connects to alternator green/yellow. There's no brown/blue feed to the 3AW (silver can) assimilator.

Hi Les,
yes but "the assimilator GY wire connects to alternator GY, same as for the standard wiring" only after passing from the rectifier and in DC.
What i didn't understand?
Ciao
Piero

L.A.B. · Sep 17, 2015

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pierodn said:
In the stock wiring system the GY goes to the warning light assimilator not as AC directly from the Stator but as DC after from the rectifier.

No, it doesn't, if you look at the wiring diagram, the GY supply to the assimilator does not pass across any of the rectifier diodes.

And the NOC 3AW diagram (and notes) I posted are quite clear about this: "from alternator AC".

The assimilator supply is AC.

pierodn · Sep 17, 2015

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L.A.B. said:
pierodn said:

In the stock wiring system the GY goes to the warning light assimilator not as AC directly from the Stator but as DC after from the rectifier.

Click to expand...

No, it doesn't, if you look at the wiring diagram, the GY supply to the assimilator does not pass across any of the rectifier diodes.

And the NOC 3AW diagram (and notes) I posted are quite clear about this: "from alternator AC".

The assimilator supply is AC.

Hi Les,
thank you.
It means that i can go to the warning light assimilator with one split from the joint from Y (pod) and Gy (stator), that is fine.
Please, if i use a 180W/16A stator i need to update the warning light assimilator or the 1972 one works well?.
Ciao.
Piero

L.A.B. · Sep 17, 2015

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pierodn said:
Please, if i use a 180W/16A stator i need to update the warning light assimilator or the 1972 one works well?.

In my opinion, as you are upgrading the charging system then it might be a better idea to replace the ancient and somewhat unreliable 3AW assimilator with one of the modern battery/voltage status monitors or charge warning units as sold by AO Services, Paul Goff, Gammatronix, Improving Classic motorcycles, etc. .

http://aoservices.co.uk/
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffyelectrex.htm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAMMATRONIX-w ... 0462726857
http://www.improvingclassicmotorcycles.com/products.htm

Note that none of these are connected to the AC output but are simple to fit.

[video]https://youtu.be/veJJtGO8q_Q[/video]

pierodn · Sep 17, 2015

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Hi Les,
thank you.
Ciao
Piero

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