Perceived quality

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Who remembers the early Lexus commercials, with the ball bearing rolling around the cars body gaps?



People being impressed with uniformity, and some other "quality barometers" which are really just mass produced manufacturing that most people (who do not work in manufacturing) are unaware of, and it benefits the MAKER firstly, then "sold" to the buyer as a "feature.
 
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Who in the flying hell, could possibly think these are OK to sell?
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Same shitful quality.
(To be clear, the BikeMaster fork seals are top quality, double lip with garter)
The faulty dust boots are marked HENDLER. Total shit.
I do not price shop, but buy from reputable dealers. QUALITY is my goal.

What a frickin waste of time/effort/money.
Perceived quality
 
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kommando said:
First item I took off my first commando was those wipers, dirt wipers is what they should be called, fitted full gaitors instead as it was a daily commuting bike.
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I understand and acknowledge. Gaiters are very effective at keeping dirt/water away from the seal.

But, I'm an 'Murrcan boy, came of age inna 70's,never could really dig the "baggy britches"
look of gaiters.
Personal preference.
And yet, I regularly tell customers they should keep the way covers on their machines in good order.
I'm a Hypocrite, in that respect, lol
 
I happen to like the look of full gaiters and was considering them when I redid my Commando but I live at the seashore in the Northeast and was advised against them from a condensation standpoint. Trapped salt air and chrome not a good combination.
 
When many companies make things, their priority is the quickest way to the profit. Slower might be better, however many people do not know the difference - so in a numbers game poor quality is better. In Australia, many of us buy on price rather than qualty. That might be the reason our local industry cannot compete. When we have a highly-skilled, highly-paid and educated workforce, how should we use them ?
 
When many companies make things, their priority is the quickest way to the profit. Slower might be better, however many people do not know the difference - so in a numbers game poor quality is better. In Australia, many of us buy on price rather than qualty. That might be the reason our local industry cannot compete. When we have a highly-skilled, highly-paid and educated workforce, how should we use them ?



I'm pretty sure you've no manufacturing experience, based on previous postings.
 
Where I have worked, the design authority was usually elsewhere. There were two types of production - neither were associated with making a profit - except in one job late in my life which involved making large industrial equipment. From your posts, I think you have the same sort of business as one of my mates - very small production runs. He has encountered people from where I used to work. The three sorts of places are radically different. The last job I had was 'on contract' - it was bringing hand grenades into production. Making industrial furnaces is more ethical.
In Australia, I am subject to the Crimes Act. So I am always careful what I talk about.
 
acotrel said:
Where I have worked, the design authority was usually elsewhere. There were two types of production - neither were associated with making a profit - except in one job late in my life which involved making large industrial equipment. From your posts, I think you have the same sort of business as one of my mates - very small production runs. He has encountered people from where I used to work. The three sorts of places are radically different. The last job I had was 'on contract' - it was bringing hand grenades into production. Making industrial furnaces is more ethical.
In Australia, I am subject to the Crimes Act. So I am always careful what I talk about.
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What type of industrial furnaces were you using? Gas, oil, or coal fired? Or perhaps induction melting furnaces? https://www.inductotherm.com/
 
I run gaiters on my bike to cover up the fact that we have internal not external springs. Ever notice how the sides of the springs
get worn and what do those metal particles do for slider life? Seems to me that this is on par with tossing the enclosed drive
chain.
 
NORTSTER1974 said:
What type of industrial furnaces were you using? Gas, oil, or coal fired? Or perhaps induction melting furnaces? https://www.inductotherm.com/
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Usually gas fired 100 tonne aluminium melting furnaces. While I was with that company for about 2 years, we made about 6. Two for them were sent down main roads in Melbourne to the port than carried to Tiwai Point inNew Zealand. We built 4 for Alcoa in Gladstone - they were made locally and operated over the internet - pouring aluminium. The 100 tonne is the amount of aluminium they melt and pour in one go. If you make a mistake,it can end-up on the floor. I was initially employed to write the operating manuals, however I installed their computer system and got them ISO9000 certification. To do the latter, I was given the experience of making a bogey-hearth furnace and installing it in Burnie Tasmania - also remotely. I enjoyed that job, but a crisis in Asia meant my hours were reduced, so I got a job in a design authority back in defence. That is how I ended-up in Benalla.
Most of the things I have done have been a bit stressful - but good fun.
 
baz said:
Yep I reckon he'd use a pudding basin crash helmet to take you out
spun at you
Just like "oddjob" does in the bond movies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Probably the biggest secret in defence in Australia is - what we do NOT have. If we gave everyone our secrets, we could set them back 60 years. I just don't want to be interviewed by ASIO - I've had that experience - it is silly stuff.
Some people have said I should write a book - that might be asking for trouble.
 

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