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Norton V4 1200

Discussion in 'Norton Motorcycles (Modern)' started by BritTwit, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. BritTwit

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  2. BPHORSEGUY

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    It's going to have lots of competition, really competent competition!
     
  3. Fast Eddie

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    It's got Norton on the tank though, and that is a proper powerful USP. As we know, customers are prepared to put up with A LOT of issues with their new Nortons that they would never do with anything else.

    I reckon Garner is on to a winner if he can actually put these into production.
     
  4. TonyA

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    I think Eddie has this one right . It will sell and they will wait .
     
  5. TonyA

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    Whats the 650 V twin a Suzuki ?
     
  6. BritTwit

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    I just wonder where the V4 donor motor will come from. Aprilia, Rotax, Honda, etc.....
    Also, the new V-twin 650? Suzuki has a 650 V-twin don't they? Didn’t Suzuki supply 1000cc Vtwin motors to Cagiva back in 1999, when Ducati wanted too much money for theirs?
    Anyway I'm sure Norton, with a one man engineering dept, will not be designing/engineering these motors.
    Whoever they decide to license the engines from, Norton should make certain the Norton name is embossed on the cases, not Aprilia, Rotax, or Honda….
    Remember the BMW 800 twin, when it was introduced it had the Rotax name on the engine cases. Then BMW, red faced, had to explain it was their design, but manufactured by Rotax until BMW could secure additional production facilities. Nice save BMW.

    It should be fun watching this process unfold over the next 2 years or so. :lol:
     
  7. TonyA

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    Motorcycle News UK claims it will a Norton made power plant , if I am reading that correctly.
     
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    I hope you are right as it will be good for all of us in the long run.... I think?
     
  10. Britfan60

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    If Norton sells multiple models and becomes more well known, we may be able to benefit in customer service. How many bikes can you sell to disgruntled owners before failing? Maybe this is what we're looking for to make them profitable and reputable. I'm not banking on it, but its a thought.
     
  11. TonyA

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    MCN got it wrong it is NOT a V twin , the 650 will be a parallel twin.!
     
  12. BPHORSEGUY

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    MCN got it wrong I don't believe it!
     
  13. Britfan60

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    Yea, right? What's next? A Vincent replibike?
     
  14. BPHORSEGUY

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    I will certainly checkout the V4, but since I love retro bikes Norton will have a hardsell with me. But if the bike can stand on its own merits I would buy one, I just see huge competion in that class!!! :shock:
     
  15. 84ok

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    probably way easier to finally offer a cruiser styled bike that would also likely fly out the door
     
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  17. TonyA

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    Wow Nice one Voodoo . Is that an open megaphone ? It sounds like it is !
     
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    Yep open.

    notice the chassis number?
    Number 68 of 200.

    Wonder when the Superlights will come out. 2C12F406-5044-42A9-8E5C-7662EAEC781B.png
     
  19. TonyA

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    Can you imagine what that beast sounds like roaring down the road ? It's not a high pitch more of a deep loud growl . I've read that during the IOM there is no mistaking it on the pipe.
     
  20. MxMartin

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    Not a V4, not even a 650, but according to this link Zongshen have created a new 850cc power plant from the original concept...

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesoci...chHcyQiywIoOi06HU4Dri3zYHYrUmDht8x7BIHebAZhkk

    "Chinese firm Zongshen bought the rights to licence-build Norton’s 650cc parallel twin engine back in 2017 – and now reports in China say it’s created its own 849cc version with more power and torque than the Norton motor it’s based on.

    The new Zongshen engine is visually identical to the Norton twin, itself is based on the front two cylinders of the firm’s V4RR superbike engine developed by engineering maestros Ricardo. Late last year Zongshen showed two bikes with its Norton-based 650cc ‘ZS650’ engine, the RX6 adventure model and RK6 tourer. Now it’s announced a ‘ZS850’ derivative with more capacity, power and torque.

    While Zongshen’s 650cc twins are detuned compared to the Norton equivalents, with 70hp compared to the Norton Atlas’s 84hp, the enlarged 849cc version manages a claimed 94hp. The peak comes at much lower revs, too – just 8500rpm compared to 11,000rpm for the smaller-capacity British version. Unsurprisingly the larger engine also wins out on torque with 62lbft compared to the Norton’s 48lbft.

    So far, Zongshen hasn’t said what bikes will get the ZS850 engine, but models based on the RX6 and RK6 are surely inevitable – an RX8 and RK8, perhaps?

    One intriguing question remains: if the Norton twin can be expanded as far as 850cc, could the same bore and stroke could be used on the V4 it’s based on, creating a 1700cc engine?"
     

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