Norton TT win

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Questions.
1. When did Norton win a TT whilst employing a toothed belt for primary drive?
2. What type of belt was it and who was the belt manufacture?
3. What were the results when the motor cycle manufacturer tried employing a 10mm pitch trapezoidal tooth form polyurethane belt and did testing at a local race circuit?
4. Has anyone else ever noticed the belt fitted to that TT winning Norton as it sat in the National Motor Cycle Museum?
 
No its another incarnation of Beltdriveman who does not like Triplex primary chains or Commando clutches, an obsession he has been posting about since at least 2002 and possibly before. Don't mention superblend bearings as that's another one, opps I have blown it ;)
 
But are you capable of answering the question???
Something tells me you have NO idea as to the answer. Clearly to you attack is the best form of defence!!
 
I've noticed that in this heat I'm not eating much but still working quite hard and my belt has gotten very loose.
 
Would this bike happen to have a Peugeot engine in it. ?

We are all aware that that bike is a replica of a replica (!),
so reality and replica may not entirely coincide....

Can we also point out that the worlds first motorcycle is these days also entirely a replica.
Spot the number of departures from the original.

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Carbon dating it would sure throw up a few anomalies ?!
 
J. M. Leadbeater said:
Questions.
1. When did Norton win a TT whilst employing a toothed belt for primary drive?
2. What type of belt was it and who was the belt manufacture?
3. What were the results when the motor cycle manufacturer tried employing a 10mm pitch trapezoidal tooth form polyurethane belt and did testing at a local race circuit?
4. Has anyone else ever noticed the belt fitted to that TT winning Norton as it sat in the National Motor Cycle Museum?

I think it was Steve Hislop's Norton rotary that used a toothed belt.

Edit: Gates, but I can't be certain.
 
Commando has it TOTALLY wrong.....I think the Commando clutch was the best clutch fitted to any late British heavyweight Twin and have absolutely nothing against triplex chains.
If you put an early original 750 Commando clutch together CORRECTLY employing an original 0.075 inch thick diaphragm spring CORRECTLY set up as the clutch was designed to do along with running it DRY as it was designed to be run then you will have a clutch that possesses 3 of the 4 basic qualities a gearbox mounted multiplate friction clutch is supposed to possess. I.E it will .....
1. NOT slip when fully engaged even when hot.
2. free off INSTANTLY and WITHOUT DRAG at all times even when hot.
3 It is EASILY operated by the user at all times. Two fingers MAX clutch lever action.
Unfortunately they forgot one very important quality which is that it should possess the LIGHTEST rotating weight reasonably possible which is why my belt driven Commando type clutches fitted to friends Triumphs , BSAs Nortons, G50s, Manxs etc employ a CORRECTLY hard anodised clutch basket and have a static weight of less than 6 1/2 lb all up considerably reducing rotating weight. But I suppose if you simply take the original Villiers Starmaker single and twin friction plate clutch and BODGE it to suit for Commandos which were i should remind you a 2 year stop gap model to keep AMC going while new models were designed, developed and put into production..(They employed DREAMERS at AMC!!)........I should add that the Starmaker clutches including its diaphragm spring were designed by a Gentleman who was when I first contacted him in the 80s Chief Clutch Designer and Engineering Director of Laycock Engineering of Sheffield and that even in his retirement he would always answer all my questions and do a bit of clutch and diaphragm spring design work for me along with successfully teaching me a great deal about both subjects.
There are ex NVT people I know who suggest that the ridiculously high rotating weight of the Commando clutches, especially the later onews with those stupid bronze plates was partly responsible for many of the gearbox failures that have occurred over the years.
As for Triplex or even singlex chains Commando would do well to obtain some old Renold design bumph and learn about primary chains, their lubrication etc etc etc. Then he might realise the beauty of employing toothed belts!!
 
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