Modern Royal Enfield review

If it had spoked wheels , better styled forks,a nice looking exhaust system instead of a square one
A black seat etc I'd consider buying one
 
at Mallory bike festival yesterday, RE had a stand in the paddock staffed by guys from their R and D department: top tip to improve power on 650 twin: bore out inlet tract to diameter of inlet valve( do other details given, and skim head by 1mm, and gives 15-20 more hp.
They also had the flat tracker they use for the UK championship, which has big bore, reworked valve angles ,gas flowing , ( keeps the electric start , so we heard it running) and two stage oil pump with reworked outer cover to supply secondary oil supply to cylinder head for cooling, and a Harris brazed frame, and gives 96hp...!
 
at Mallory bike festival yesterday, RE had a stand in the paddock staffed by guys from their R and D department: top tip to improve power on 650 twin: bore out inlet tract to diameter of inlet valve( do other details given, and skim head by 1mm, and gives 15-20 more hp.
They also had the flat tracker they use for the UK championship, which has big bore, reworked valve angles ,gas flowing , ( keeps the electric start , so we heard it running) and two stage oil pump with reworked outer cover to supply secondary oil supply to cylinder head for cooling, and a Harris brazed frame, and gives 96hp...!
Wish I’d checked that out !
 
Ok most know I'm very happy with my modern Royal Enfields, I'd like to add a couple more reasons for my satisfaction. Today I decided to do some routine maintenance, mainly adjust valves. Of course I had to remove seat and gas tank. Fuel lines had quick disconnect fittings- easy peasy!
Then thanks to manual, supplied free from factory, the cam has lines with L and R that you line up to set valves right and left side. Removed o-ringed plug from left side engine cover to access the crank nut to easily index cam for valve setting. When reassembling I noticed controls, relays are Bosch! Everything was easy to access! What more do you want for $7000 out the door! (2020 price)
 
Reality check on the hotrod 865 kit.
The stock bike + open exhaust made 46 din horsepower ( crankshaft) on dyno, exactly the same number as the manufacturer's claim without aftermarket stinger exhaust.

With the 865 kit fitted+ S&S performance cam + stinger exhaust + Power Commander + dyno tuning the bike made 58 din hp.
Cost without labour was 4,000 euros, not including exhaust.

One could pick up a nice used 865 Triumph for about the same cost as the RE 865 kit parts.
I believe the 865 Triumphs produce 68 din hp in stock form, ten more than the hotrodded RE.
That way you could ride the 650 RE one day and the 865 the next!
On the other hand, some folks just love to hotrod things and I sometimes suffer from that irrational urge as well.

Glen
 
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Reality check on the hotrod 865 kit.
The stock bike + open exhaust made 46 din horsepower ( crankshaft) on dyno, exactly the same number as the manufacturer's claim without aftermarket stinger exhaust.

With the 865 kit fitted+ S&S performance cam + stinger exhaust + Power Commander + dyno tuning the bike made 58 din hp.
Cost without labour was 4,000 euros, not including exhaust.

One could pick up a nice used 865 Triumph for about the same cost as the RE 865 kit parts.
I believe the 865 Triumphs produce 68 din hp in stock form, ten more than the hotrodded RE.
That way you could ride the 650 RE one day and the 865 the next!
On the other hand, some folks just love to hotrod things and I sometimes suffer from that irrational urge as well.

Glen
That is more than a 25% increase though Glen, so it’s bloody good bolt on power.

But I agree with your conclusion, a mate of mine looked into this closely, and I did casually, but we both ended up concluding that a large part of the appeal, and purpose, of the RE is its price point. And if you started adding big money to one, you’re simply better off buying a Triumph.
 
True, it is a big increase. It's 27 % more pep but the displacement increased by 33%, so it makes just a tiny bit less power per cc than the stock bike.
That is strange as he has added a performance cam, special Tec airbox, Stinger exhaust and a Power Commander.
Those items ought to contribute a few hp, but it seems that they aren't helping much.
Perhaps there is a mismatch in there somewhere or a bottleneck of some type.

Glen
 
I have seen that video before and maybe it is mentioned but that sure does look like a crack at 6:57.
Agreed
Modern Royal Enfield review
 
That is more than a 25% increase though Glen, so it’s bloody good bolt on power.

But I agree with your conclusion, a mate of mine looked into this closely, and I did casually, but we both ended up concluding that a large part of the appeal, and purpose, of the RE is its price point. And if you started adding big money to one, you’re simply better off buying a Triumph.

Spot on.
Those mods will only earn you bragging rights among other RE riders.
Very costly.
 
58 DIN horsepower gets it about on par with a stock 750 Commando from 55 years ago. The RE is heavier though, so perhaps not.
 
Reality check on the hotrod 865 kit.
The stock bike + open exhaust made 46 din horsepower ( crankshaft) on dyno, exactly the same number as the manufacturer's claim without aftermarket stinger exhaust.

With the 865 kit fitted+ S&S performance cam + stinger exhaust + Power Commander + dyno tuning the bike made 58 din hp.
Cost without labour was 4,000 euros, not including exhaust.

One could pick up a nice used 865 Triumph for about the same cost as the RE 865 kit parts.
I believe the 865 Triumphs produce 68 din hp in stock form, ten more than the hotrodded RE.
That way you could ride the 650 RE one day and the 865 the next!
On the other hand, some folks just love to hotrod things and I sometimes suffer from that irrational urge as well.

Glen
360 crank tho
 
Yes, love the sound of a bike with a 360 crank. Unfortunately it generally means big vibration unless you are on a Commando. If the 865 Triumph I tried is any indication, the balance shaft works beautifully against the AC Bonnie's 360 crank, it was a smooth runner from idle right on up.
The 270 crank that the RE 650 has gives that different sound, quite nice really. It's the runner up sound to the 360 crank. I was going to say it's the Miss Congeniality sound vs the 360 but it's more of tough sound , not congenial.

Glen
 
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