Model 25 Norton & Steve Lancefield

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Hi,

I have a client who is looking for anything related to the work of Steve Lancefield. Specifically around the era where he worked on the Model 25. I know this might be the unicorn of motorcycles to try and find, but I said I'd help with the search.

Any and all links, information, random knowledge would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

John Sinclair
thefourfifty.com
Friday Harbor, WA, USA
 
Well stone me, Norton Roadholders were a copy of BMW forks :?:

“I was told by H H Beach back in the early sixties (the Norton agent in Great Portland Street, London who was much involved in Norton's track activities in the early twenties) that he obtained a set of BMW telescopic forks at Norton's request in 1937, on the basis of which Norton's own telescopics were produced”

http://www.vintagenorton.com/search?q=lancefield
 
Bernhard said:
Well stone me, Norton Roadholders were a copy of BMW forks :?:

Except that prewar Norton telescopic forks didn't have any suggestion of a hydraulic damping mechanism,
so they were little more than pogo sticks !

BTW, Nortons called their girder forks "Roadholders" too,
so Nortons had Roadholders before the invention of telescopic forks....
 
AFAIK, vintage BMWs (up until the early 1960's I think) had leading link front forks (Earles forks?) and the dampers were not directly connected to the headstock. The Russian "Ural" bike, which I think is still on the market, had the vintage BMW front end design.

There's a TV commercial running in the US at present which features a young woman riding a BMW with a sidecar. That has the Earles forks, as I think the long-lamented Douglas Dragonfly also had.
 
John

Steve Lancefield had assistance from a racer who had a business nearby, George Cant, especially with the man handling of engines and the like. George eventually became a sort of unnoficial right hand man to Steve, and in his will, Steve left George his Manx Norton - the first 500 Norton to have lapped the I,O.M TT circuit at a race speed in excess of 100 mph.
A friend who knows George well put the question to him about any connection with a Model 25, and George said he does not recall Steve ever mentioning anything involving this machine, but he George, figures there must have been some involvement as it was right in the middle of Steve's own racing period.

Steve Lancefield had some considerable success racing a side valve machine, but when the first CS1 appeared, Steve bought the machine direct off the show stand.
He had a short period with the factory, and was also involved with Nortons visit to the USA with Dominator machines, but was probably best known for the Nortons he prepared for many of the top riders on the European and World scene.

Steve Lancefield did much testing for Nortons, aand also had a close connection with Amal, who at different times made a number of special carburettors for him.
When he died, the family seemed unaware of his standing in the racing world, and cleared out his workshop of all his tooling and equipment, including his very comprehensive notes on all the work carried out on customers engines. Apart from George and his memories of a remarkable racing engineer, it seems very little else has survived

Of top name riders who at one time raced a Lancefield Norton, Phil Read is probably the last of the top men still around who could talk about him.
 
Snotzo said:
John

Steve Lancefield had assistance from a racer who had a business nearby, George Cant, especially with the man handling of engines and the like. George eventually became a sort of unnoficial right hand man to Steve, and in his will, Steve left George his Manx Norton - the first 500 Norton to have lapped the I,O.M TT circuit at a race speed in excess of 100 mph. quote]


Any idea who the rider was :?:
 
I think you mean the 1961 TT and Minter unfourtunely was a DNF after posting the first 100mph lap on a 500 single-Mike Hailwood won, also on a 500 Manx when Gary Hocking on the MV was leading when he crashed and rode to the pits and retired.
 
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