Mahindra BSA's

First thing that caught my eye was the size of that downpipe.... Replacements available at all branches of Wickes or B and Q...
Probably looks fat because they decided to eat the extra cost of double wall to avoid the extensive blueing some lean running retro bikes get. Looks weird if you are used to the look of an original Goldy, but how many buyers of this bike are going to be making that comparison?
 
I wondered whether they had built the CAT etc in line, can't see whether there is the usual cancerous lump under the engine?
 
First thing that caught my eye was the size of that downpipe.... Replacements available at all branches of Wickes or B and Q...
Might be double walled to prevent blueing. It appears that way as the stub going into the head is necked down in diameter.
Triumph does this on the T120
It does work but it adds a lot of weight.
I would rather have light weight and some blue showing.
Looks like Bodger posted same thought at about the same time.
Glen
 
Probably looks fat because they decided to eat the extra cost of double wall to avoid the extensive blueing some lean running retro bikes get. Looks weird if you are used to the look of an original Goldy, but how many buyers of this bike are going to be making that comparison?
A couple of English winters will sort that out!!
(and then off to B%Q!)
 
A couple of English winters will sort that out!!
(and then off to B%Q!)
The English winters sort out the hinkley Bonneville's and the newest royal Enfields
I suspect these will go the same way
I'm wondering what the price will be?
 
"Pricing is another detail that hasn’t yet been announced, with Joshi only committing to say that it will be competitive. "


"The company has made it clear that it intends to start assembling BSA motorcycles in England by mid-2021. While it is easy to expect that the BSAs are going to be aimed at the Royal Enfield 650s, it’s worth remembering that throughout history, BSA has always placed itself above Royal Enfield.

Similarly, the new BSA motorcycle is expected to be priced higher than the Enfield 650s and closer to bikes like the Kawasaki W800 and Triumph Street Twin."
 
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Correction, not 29 ft lbs torque as I posted earlier. One of the earlier reports listed that number.
The official numbers given today are 45bhp and 55 NM torque. 55 NM is 40 ft lbs, quite decent.

Glen
 
Correction, not 29 ft lbs torque as I posted earlier. One of the earlier reports listed that number.
The official numbers given today are 45bhp and 55 NM torque. 55 NM is 40 ft lbs, quite decent.

Glen
And in the link I posted the boss man describes the low rpm torque delivery and very flat torque curve. Sounds like they’ve done their homework IMHO.
 
Wet weight is 477 lbs , almost identical to my MK3. Only difference is, that is with the Interstate tank and 26 litres of fuel on board the MK3, 12 litres on the Goldstar.
With a full Roadster tank on the MK3 it would be about 30 lbs lighter than this new BSA.
By that measure, the BSA is a tetch on the heavy side.
And that is assuming the claimed weight is accurate.

Glen
 
As usual I whine about the weight. Where does all that weight come from?
 
Where does all that weight come from?
Legislation, so Euro6 gives you ECU and all the bits like Throttle body etc, tight emissions means adding water cooling. ABS adds weight, double walled exhaust pipe, silencer needing extra baffling. Balancer shafts for lower vibration. It soon all adds up.
 
I guess so. If the weight is down low not so bad and if the saddle to ground height is low then I guess it won't be a show stopper.
Anyway the exhaust looks downright cheap.
 
Who is it (are they?) aimed at? I can't see any 'mature' BSA nuts giving up their 'classic' rides for one of these, and do the youngsters want something that looks like Grandads old banger?
Doubtless they're going for a global market, but if that's going to be pitched at 'Street Twin' prices I doubt Mr Bloor will be having sleepless nights...
IMHO :)
 
Who is it (are they?) aimed at? I can't see any 'mature' BSA nuts giving up their 'classic' rides for one of these, and do the youngsters want something that looks like Grandads old banger?
Doubtless they're going for a global market, but if that's going to be pitched at 'Street Twin' prices I doubt Mr Bloor will be having sleepless nights...
IMHO :)
Us old buggers buy bikes like this for the estart, no oil leaks and the "ride to distant places without breakdown" feature.
Hopefully this BSA has this feature. The Triumph offerings do, from what I've heard the RE also does. The 961 Norton definitely does not.
Mahindra has built some real dodgy farm tractors. They are known for proliferous oil leakage and electrical problems. Yet they have been building tractors for a long time.
It will be interesting to see if they can come out of the gate with a completely reliable motorcycle.

Glen
 
I think it looks ok apart from the radiator and exhaust, if Royal Enfield can manage to make large four strokes without water cooling then why can't other makes ?
 
Good question. I can certainly see the need for liquid cooling at 100+ HP but these are in the forties.
The RE does use oil cooling and has a fair sized rad for that.


Glen
 
... the new BSA motorcycle is expected to be priced higher than the Enfield 650s and closer to bikes like the Kawasaki W800 and Triumph Street Twin."
With the recently released performance figures, they are a class or two below the Street Twin's league.

Being a single, as a MAJOR criteria for the buying public, ALSO places the new BSA in a different niche.
 
I guess buyers of these bikes aren't too concerned about power output.
The $12,000 US Kawi w800 has a 500 lb curb weight and 47 bhp at crank.

That's considerably down on power and up in weight from a 1968 Commando!
At least this new Goldstar, while a lot heavier than a DBD34, manages to put out a few more bhp than the original.
Sixty years of engine development time later and with 650cc, dual overhead cams and 11.5 to 1 Cr, you could expect just a bit more than a 5 HP bump!

Glen
 
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