OK thanx will try that next time parts on bench, ugh. Good flat surface listing to keep in mind. I use 1" thick tempered glass from big broken dining table. Have big hunks left to try to cut size of sanding sheet if anyone interested. Left some at water jetter but he ain't got to it so far to see if scatters that thick or jet gets diverted spread out too much for the depth of hardness. On factory Trixie I use anneal copper and Hylomar to see it weeps-blow by prevented.