Is this the correct cottered cradle for pre-Mk3 models?

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Good luck with that!!!!
Matchless said:
As I should have known! The bloody thing is shit. The rubbing faces for the s/arm bushes are 0.025" out of parallel. Also, the pin bore looks like it was reamed without lube at one end. Looking at the heat marks it appears to have been machined BEFORE it was welded as opposed to the proper way of doing things.
I called Norvil & spoke to a very polite chap who said it will be collected by the courier, then Les will check another on Thursday & send it out. This could be fun. Update to follow.
By the way, the only reason for buying one in the first place is because I don't have one to recon. & modify.
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Fast Eddie said:
Martin, did you read post #6 ?
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Thanks Nigel I did, & have messaged him. If the replacement is no good I will go for that option.
I'm certain this is why so many bikes end up as unfinished projects, or worse still, sold on with the advert stating: Fully rebuilt with many new parts, 0 miles, just needs a few adjustments. HA!
 
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YING said:
Warp,
I have used the split collars for years and everything stays nice. I can’t fault them in any way.
Mike
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Mike, it was a genius idea courtesy of Heinz Kegler (as you would know)
Simple and effective and something the factory could have done (if the thought was there)

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Heinz Kegler has passed on

Heinz died a few days ago, in his own home. He was in his mid seventies. For those who may not know, Heinz was born in East Germany and came to work for Norton in England in the sixties. His job then was as a test rider, to actually ride the bikes hard enough to try to make parts fail. He...
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In hindsight it would have been easier to spend the $150 they wanted here for two industrial 1-1/8" clamps but ended up making those oversize versions from 6061.

The grub screws are M8 with the ends faced where they contact the spindle recesses and when installed even with the half nuts there is maybe 3 mm clearance to the cross tube behind them.
They certainly looked the part The swingarm pivot was in very good condition so the pin did lock up when they were installed nipped up) until I went to fit the oil filter unit and one clamp blocked a hose.
I then made a filter unit (Africa Twin smaller OD filter) moved to the left so the hoses passed between them so the saving on buying clamps ended up as two projects. :rolleyes:

When you read about contemporary companies making parts not fit for purpose or to an acceptable quality standard The part would have to be checked at manufacture and at retailer dispatch. it says much about the (lost) tradesman at the factory and its suppliers half a century ago.
 
Update on the Norvil cradle.

I received a phone call from Sue at Norvil to update me on progress & she said it would be sorted in a few days. A few days later she called to say it would be with me after the weekend, & sure enough it arrived, re machined back to parallel but now under size, meaning I had to shim the swing arm bushes. Not to worry as at least it had been freshly powder coated, unfortunately including the very ends of the iso tube. This meant I had to then remove the coating to fit the end caps. When I had done that I fitted the rubber bit, end caps & adjuster. It was then I noticed that the gap was uneven. Yes you guessed it, the bloody iso tube ends were also out of parallel & I hadn't noticed that the first time around. F*%K!! What sort of so called engineer do they use? I then did what I should have done in the first place & set it up on the Bridgeport to re machined it.
It is now fitted to the bike so I can move on with the rebuild, but this has to be a lesson learned for me at least......DON'T buy parts from Norvil.

Martyn.
 
Matchless said:
Update on the Norvil cradle.

I received a phone call from Sue at Norvil to update me on progress & she said it would be sorted in a few days. A few days later she called to say it would be with me after the weekend, & sure enough it arrived, re machined back to parallel but now under size, meaning I had to shim the swing arm bushes. Not to worry as at least it had been freshly powder coated, unfortunately including the very ends of the iso tube. This meant I had to then remove the coating to fit the end caps. When I had done that I fitted the rubber bit, end caps & adjuster. It was then I noticed that the gap was uneven. Yes you guessed it, the bloody iso tube ends were also out of parallel & I hadn't noticed that the first time around. F*%K!! What sort of so called engineer do they use? I then did what I should have done in the first place & set it up on the Bridgeport to re machined it.
It is now fitted to the bike so I can move on with the rebuild, but this has to be a lesson learned for me at least......DON'T buy parts from Norvil.

Martyn.
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I wouldn't dream of buying from there
Once bitten!
 
Thanks for the update Martyn & sorry it didn't go smoothly :( (I think that's a bit of an understatement)
 
I met the bearded one in a shop he was picking up some rebuilt mags from in the 80's, I took an instant dislike and have never bought as much as a washer. My instant dislike has been confirmed by other less fortunate people many times since.
 
Matchless said:
Update on the Norvil cradle.

I received a phone call from Sue at Norvil to update me on progress & she said it would be sorted in a few days. A few days later she called to say it would be with me after the weekend, & sure enough it arrived, re machined back to parallel but now under size, meaning I had to shim the swing arm bushes. Not to worry as at least it had been freshly powder coated, unfortunately including the very ends of the iso tube. This meant I had to then remove the coating to fit the end caps. When I had done that I fitted the rubber bit, end caps & adjuster. It was then I noticed that the gap was uneven. Yes you guessed it, the bloody iso tube ends were also out of parallel & I hadn't noticed that the first time around. F*%K!! What sort of so called engineer do they use? I then did what I should have done in the first place & set it up on the Bridgeport to re machined it.
It is now fitted to the bike so I can move on with the rebuild, but this has to be a lesson learned for me at least......DON'T buy parts from Norvil.

Martyn.
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Their Ebay listing shows 100% positive feedback. Time to put that right?
 
Matchless said:
Update on the Norvil cradle.

I received a phone call from Sue at Norvil to update me on progress & she said it would be sorted in a few days. A few days later she called to say it would be with me after the weekend, & sure enough it arrived, re machined back to parallel but now under size, meaning I had to shim the swing arm bushes. Not to worry as at least it had been freshly powder coated, unfortunately including the very ends of the iso tube. This meant I had to then remove the coating to fit the end caps. When I had done that I fitted the rubber bit, end caps & adjuster. It was then I noticed that the gap was uneven. Yes you guessed it, the bloody iso tube ends were also out of parallel & I hadn't noticed that the first time around. F*%K!! What sort of so called engineer do they use? I then did what I should have done in the first place & set it up on the Bridgeport to re machined it.
It is now fitted to the bike so I can move on with the rebuild, but this has to be a lesson learned for me at least......DON'T buy parts from Norvil.

Martyn.
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You really couldn't make that up :mad:
 
To be fair they have obviously all attended charm school recently, as they could not have been any more polite & helpful. That said, they do seem to be relying on the manufacturers for quality checks, which is a bit like allowing the police to police their own conduct. I rest my case!
 
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