Is it me or Avon tyres?

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Just bought a batch of Roadrider II tyres and they are a pain to install and then to get to run true. Initially thought it was the excel valanced alloy rims but have nearly the same issues with the chrome rims. 100/90 and 90/100 x 19's on 1.85 rims using tyre lube.
I normally use a No-Mar on most of my wheels, but these tyres need spoons.
Anyone else have issues or have any tips?
Andy
 
I have no trouble with (8 of) them. Use the witness rings to ensure proper seating.
Deflate, lube and reinflate to remedy.
 
Never a problem with Roadriders in the same sizes as you're using. Maybe use a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tyre whilst inflating?
 
Not a Roadrider. but I fitted a new Roadrunner last year that I reckon was stored at the bottom of the pile! Yes, a wrestling match to fit (plenty of tyre soap) but couldn't get it to sit square for love nor money. Eventually ran it slightly deflated for a few careful miles, after that full pressure saw it sitting nice and true :-)
 
I give up? What is No-Mar and what has cable ties got to do with changing tyres?
By the way I often have trouble changing tyres and have pinched more than a few tubes. I would gladly accept any tips or tools that would assist me.
alan
 
Stubby Tire Tools from California ( https://www.webbikeworld.com/stubby-tire-tools/ ) Unfortunately....they ceased trading and are up for sale!

But they work really well....except on tyres with mousse....I lent one to a local Enduro rider and....he broke it...to be fair, Stubby said that would happen!

.....and yes, tell me more about cable ties.

I don't find the Roadrider equivalent race tyre too bad to fit at all, alloy rims.

But the rear Heidenaus I use can be a bitch.
 
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Put the tube inside the tyre , put a little air in ,cable tie the tyre so both sides meet . Put ties every 6”-8” all way round. Put valve thru hole in rim . Lay wheel on floor and push tyre onto rim both sides together no chance of pinching tube . With practice you can do it with no tyre levers . When on remove cable ties ,and pump up tube, use tyre lube of your choice , plenty of vids on utube
 
When I buy my tyres always free fitting, but I have done a lot of tyre repairs over the years of riding 3 good tyre irons, a bit of slippery stuff, done plenty of dirt bike tyres in my time I have a new set of tyre irons that hook on the rims but don't go near the cube, great for those tight tyres, they are designed for MC rims.
 
I just did a new roadrider mk2. The rubber is quite sticky so as others said use another of lube and warm the tire.
 
Alan L said:
What is No-Mar and what has cable ties got to do with changing tyres?
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Cable tie question was covered and the No-Mar is a manual tyre changer from the USA, but several cheap copies around such as Harbor Freight.
The No Mar was a godsend for most of my tube and tubeless wheels. The main advantage is that it holds the rim rigidly to the tyre machine. On most tyres you can use the supplied mount and dismount bars but on bikes such as the Wing or many dirt tyres ( and the Roadriders) I still need to use spoons.

FWIT my Avons were fresh of the press so to speak and really stiff. Reminded me of the Bridgestone Battleaxes fitted to my Honda ST's.
 
What pressure did you pump them up to?
Sometimes I can get to 80+ psi before they seat properly
 
andyd said:
Just bought a batch of Roadrider II tyres and they are a pain to install and then to get to run true. Initially thought it was the excel valanced alloy rims but have nearly the same issues with the chrome rims. 100/90 and 90/100 x 19's on 1.85 rims using tyre lube.
I normally use a No-Mar on most of my wheels, but these tyres need spoons.
Anyone else have issues or have any tips?
Andy
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I don't have trouble getting the originals on (haven't tried the new ones), but getting them to properly seat is another matter. It makes sense - they are tubeless tires and our rims are not. Making them sloppy with soapy water helps but I don't that - concerned about rust. I use a rubber hammer against the part that doesn't pop out on the rim properly.

I use this 14.5" version of this set to get the tire on: Amazon product ASIN B075GSZKWH
 
marshg246 said:
I don't have trouble getting the originals on (haven't tried the new ones), but getting them to properly seat is another matter. It makes sense - they are tubeless tires and our rims are not. Making them sloppy with soapy water helps but I don't that - concerned about rust. I use a rubber hammer against the part that doesn't pop out on the rim properly.

I use this 14.5" version of this set to get the tire on: Amazon product ASIN B075GSZKWH
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marshg246 said:
Amazon has MANY bead lubes
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I have tried a few lubes. No-mar have a really good paste that I tend to use first, but not good for spraying of course. I have two liquid tyre lubes - one is very thin and I'm not impressed the other is much heaver and appears to stay longer before it evaporates. Every tyre shop has liquid lube and they may give you a sample if asked.
 
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