Indicator Cancel

SteveC

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I seem to constantly forget to turn off my indicators after a turn. A car pulled out in front of me yesterday, much to my annoyance - until I realised it was my own fault for still indicating!
I don’t really want to change my Nicely polished switches and wondered if anyone has made or bought some kind of system to cancel the indicators in some way.
All ideas And experience welcome - APART from take your indicators off!
 
I've got a warning buzzer on mine, but I put it inside the headlight and it's not loud enough to hear over the wind and my mufflers above 30 mph or so.
I would prefer a timer that will turn the indicators off after a few seconds or flashes.
I think that's what the OP is asking for too.

Jaydee
 
It would have to work positive earth/ground (unless the electrics had been converted to negative earth). An electronic timed buzzer or cutout might not.
 
Install an alarm. The old wing has one of those loud nuisances which goes off at >40mph. Probably useless above 60+mph on a Commando making all of the desirable racket..... Haven't checked polarity compatibility.
 
I have these tiny flasher relays from Motogadget on my bikes:

Indicator Cancel


Load independent, switches off after 20 flashes.
Must have saved my life a few times..

mo.stop

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SteveC said:
I seem to constantly forget to turn off my indicators after a turn. A car pulled out in front of me yesterday, much to my annoyance - until I realised it was my own fault for still indicating!
I don’t really want to change my Nicely polished switches and wondered if anyone has made or bought some kind of system to cancel the indicators in some way.
All ideas And experience welcome - APART from take your indicators off!
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I have the same problem all the time. I use a LED bulb to make the indicator much brighter which helps a little but you can't just stick on in, you also need two diodes and a wiring change.

IMHO a noise maker would make no sense. What's needed is a flasher with a timer. Sounds like a good product idea if no one has done it. While designing one, incandescent or LED bulbs could be taken into account. I've been out of electronics design for about 45 years - unless one of the guys who still do it takes it on, I'll look into it.
 
ludwig said:
I have these tiny flasher relays from Motogadget on my bikes:

Indicator Cancel


Load independent, switches off after 20 flashes.
Must have saved my life a few times..

mo.stop

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Interesting - does it just replace the standard flasher unit?
 
ludwig said:
I have these tiny flasher relays from Motogadget on my bikes:

Indicator Cancel


Load independent, switches off after 20 flashes.
Must have saved my life a few times..

mo.stop

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Expensive, but sounds like a perfect solution. Dose sit fit inside the Lucas cover (with modifications) so it can be mounted in the standard clip?
 
marshg246 said:
I have the same problem all the time. I use a LED bulb to make the indicator much brighter which helps a little but you can't just stick on in, you also need two diodes and a wiring change.

IMHO a noise maker would make no sense. What's needed is a flasher with a timer. Sounds like a good product idea if no one has done it. While designing one, incandescent or LED bulbs could be taken into account. I've been out of electronics design for about 45 years - unless one of the guys who still do it takes it on, I'll look into it.
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I wonder if the standard switches can have the latching removed so that they push to make contact and then return to middle position. They could then drive a relay to work the flashers, and the switch wouldn’t need resetting after timer switch off.
I didn’t really want a buzzer that might start up at the traffic lights.
People would then look at me for the wrong loudnoise!
 
There are turn signal canceling dohickeys out there that get pretty sophisticated. Google will show you. One of them has an accelerometer and a gyroscope to actually sense when your turn is complete. No doubt $$$
 
jbruney said:
Install an alarm. The old wing has one of those loud nuisances which goes off at >40mph. Probably useless above 60+mph on a Commando making all of the desirable racket..... Haven't checked polarity compatibility.
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My Wing clicks from 0-40 then turns to a pulsed buzzing. Would not work with all LED’s, had to replace two turn signal bulbs w/ standard 1157 bulbs to get it to function correctly again. Guess it needs the resistance in the circuit. Sorry for the side track, on to things Norton.
 
ludwig said:
I have these tiny flasher relays from Motogadget on my bikes:

Indicator Cancel


Load independent, switches off after 20 flashes.
Must have saved my life a few times..

mo.stop

<div class="description std"><div class="g-block-5 g-row"><div class="g-1-2 t-1-1 m-1-1 padding-xxl-right mt-padding-none"><h2 class="highlight-1 h4">Details</h2> </div> <div class="g-1-2 t-1-1 m-1-1 std"> mo.stop, the tunable digital brake light modula
motogadget.com motogadget.com
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A few questions Ludwig if you have the time...

Do you use the standard lucas switch (or know if it works with the standard lucas switches)

I would assume that once it cancels the signal and your switch is in the left or right position, that moving the switch lever back to the center resets the motogadget flasher. Is that right?

IF it works like that, I would say it's an ideal solution for when you forget to turn the directional switch lever off. As for it being a life saver,.... IMO, it's very dangerous to have on coming cars see your directional is ON, when you are in fact, GOING STRAIGHT...

Thanks in advance for your reply
 
I removed the add on (factory Lucas turn indicators & ass. wire) ... use old style “hand indicators” works great for me , have yet to forget to flick switch to off after turning/changing lanes .....
 
The std Lucas in the pic is just for comparison of size.
I suppose you could fit the Motogadget in it, but what's the point?
SteveC: it just replaces the std unit.
oOnortonOo: Moving the switch lever back to the center resets the flasher.
One minus point:
When riding in the rain for a prolonged time, it can switch off.
I suppose that water ingress in the blinkers triggers the circuit protection.
When dried up, it automatically restores its function.
 
I put electronic noise makers on my indicators. At lower speeds they work well and in fact are loud enough for pedestrians to notice. But then at speed they aren't really effective. Still they are a huge step forward for older fellows as we all heaved our indicators into the weeds as soon as they appeared in 1971. Hand signals work well for me but sadly nobody has the slightest idea of what you are doing.
...and one more thing: in the states, left arm extended straight out was a left turn (obvious) and a right turn was the hand to elbow
straight up with the elbow to shoulder straight out. In the UK that apparently was never used. Push bike types use the straight arm
using left or right arm as needed but taking one's hand off the throttle is hardly a good idea with an old bike!
Looks like Ludwig has figured out the way to go.
 
Craig said:
I removed the add on (factory Lucas turn indicators & ass. wire) ... use old style “hand indicators” works great for me , have yet to forget to flick switch to off after turning/changing lanes .....
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I do the same on bikes without turn signals, but at least in the US, I doubt that more than 25% of the drivers know what they mean. I see bicycle riders sticking their right hand out for a right turn and motorcycle riders only signaling left turns using hand signals. I still use the stopping hand signal when cars are behind me but I bet that hardly anyone in the US knows that one.
 


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