Ideal British bike

htown16 · May 4, 2012

The other day I was thinking about how to design the ideal british bike.
Here's what I have so far. Triumph lower end with plunger oil pump, unit construction with 5 speed gearbox, BSA top end and head with enclosed push rods and easy access to rockers. Norton frame with isolastic mountings and disc brakes front and rear.

swooshdave · May 4, 2012

bluto · May 4, 2012

sounds a lot like a Triumph T140 750 Bonneville (disk brakes, 5 sp, unit construction) with the extreme vibration removed...a couple of friends ride them and say they are great allrounders and the bike they would keep if they could only own one

beng · May 4, 2012

Well it will be ideal for you.

My ideal bike is a standard 650ss.

Bernhard · May 5, 2012

htown16 said:
The other day I was thinking about how to design the ideal british bike.
Here's what I have so far. Triumph lower end with plunger oil pump, unit construction with 5 speed gearbox, BSA top end and head with enclosed push rods and easy access to rockers. Norton frame with isolastic mountings and disc brakes front and rear.

Re “Triumph lower end with plunger oil pump”

This seems odd, considering Geoff Monty was discarding these on his Triumph twins way back in the 1960’s and fitting a Manx gear type oil pump :!:

swooshdave · May 5, 2012

Bernhard said:
htown16 said:

The other day I was thinking about how to design the ideal british bike.
Here's what I have so far. Triumph lower end with plunger oil pump, unit construction with 5 speed gearbox, BSA top end and head with enclosed push rods and easy access to rockers. Norton frame with isolastic mountings and disc brakes front and rear.

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Re “Triumph lower end with plunger oil pump”

This seems odd, considering Geoff Monty was discarding these on his Triumph twins way back in the 1960’s and fitting a Manx gear type oil pump :!:

For racing, but I believe it's been proven that the plungers are just fine on the street and a gear pump on a Triumph is actually detrimental.

Dances with Shrapnel · May 5, 2012

swooshdave said:
but I believe it's been proven that the plungers are just fine on the street and a gear pump on a Triumph is actually detrimental.

I am curious about how they may be detrimental. Care to expound a bit on that.

swooshdave · May 5, 2012

Dances with Shrapnel said:
swooshdave said:

but I believe it's been proven that the plungers are just fine on the street and a gear pump on a Triumph is actually detrimental.

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I am curious about how they may be detrimental. Care to expound a bit on that.

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/show ... ostcount=2

Hobot · May 5, 2012

Jeandr · May 5, 2012

I think the Kawasaki W650 is possibly the best looking modern "british" bike, shame they stopped making them.

Jean

Matt Spencer · May 6, 2012

Triumph bottom end , Good top end ,dressed for Bonneville , but needs better positioning for Bonneville . :mrgreen:

:wink:

willh · May 8, 2012

swooshdave said:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cfOUxWFWmEU/T ... ONCEPT.jpg
probably more your flavor Dave

Matt Spencer · May 8, 2012

Hobot · May 14, 2012

Any hot up items or tricks available for these soon to be delivered cute newbies yet?

Bernhard · May 14, 2012

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Bernhard · May 14, 2012

For racing, but I believe it's been proven that the plungers are just fine on the street and a gear pump on a Triumph is actually detrimental.[/quote]

Agreed, the Monty’s “Monard” was a racing bike, but on the basics that “racing improves the breed” why go to plungers :?:
Are Triumph the only motorcycle in the world who use plungers :?:
I had a 650 thunderbird that when taken up to 75 mph and then shut off the throttle, it left in it’s wake a smoke screen that would have been comparable to a World War one/two battleship running away from danger :!:

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