I suddenly feel very old

The upside to it. A few years ago I pull up to the gas pump at my local station on my BSA A10 and a 20 something lovely young thing walks over and tells me how cool it was and how she really liked my "vintage" leather bomber jacket. Then I thought "wow, I've had both of them for longer than you've been alive". Still nice to know that real style never goes out of style even if it does make you feel like a fossil.
 
The upside to it. A few years ago I pull up to the gas pump at my local station on my BSA A10 and a 20 something lovely young thing walks over and tells me how cool it was and how she really liked my "vintage" leather bomber jacket. Then I thought "wow, I've had both of them for longer than you've been alive". Still nice to know that real style never goes out of style even if it does make you feel like a fossil.
You know you are getting old when you don't offer to take the young lovelies for a ride around the block. There is a young lady in our town of about age 30. She is a friend of my step-daughter. A whike back she reminded me of the time I took her for a ride on the back of my RD250LC. We had a bit of a moment when turning into a side street too fast, but she did not know that. She is very attractive, but actually she is a bit of a thug.
 
The upside to it. A few years ago I pull up to the gas pump at my local station on my BSA A10 and a 20 something lovely young thing walks over and tells me how cool it was and how she really liked my "vintage" leather bomber jacket. Then I thought "wow, I've had both of them for longer than you've been alive". Still nice to know that real style never goes out of style even if it does make you feel like a fossil.
After which she threw a leg over , wrapped her arms around your waist and said “ thrill me ! “ … sigh …
 
I felt this way when my kids were young and dependent on me
I was the bread winner working between 6 and 7 days a week with no sick pay
I was really careful when riding for a number of years
I only had one spill when a car pulled out of a side road and swiped the tail light off my commando
It was fastback spec back then
I didn't actually come off ,I managed to hold the bike up as I hit the kerb but I remember at the time thinking what would happen is I was laid up for a few weeks!
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Hi,
I‘m sorry for your unfortunate story. We too are suffering from appalling road conditions.
I hope something positive comes out of your misfortune. I can’t begin to appreciate the pressure of looking after your adult son must put on you. I’m sure you should be commended for your love and commitment you show him.

As for giving up riding your bike, well, I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. If you, as an experienced but very mature rider, thought it was necessary to give up riding because of risk, how could we possibly allow an inexperienced young person to ride a bike who has their entire life ahead of them.
Every activity we engage in is to some extent a calculated risk. To live a cloistered life wrapped in cotton wool avoiding risk, in the hope of statistically gaining a few more weeks of life through risk avoidance, doesn’t seem much of a trade off to me, in comparison to doing something you genuinely enjoy.
Crunching the numbers on the likelihood of death or serious injury on a bike is an easy calculation but quantifying the improved quality of life by enjoying the freedom of riding, not to mention the possible increase in lifespan by staying active, is not so easy. Does age make cowards of us all? I don’t know but living the humorous cliche, ‘grow old disgracefully‘ probably extends peoples lives rather than shorten them.
Increasingly the ski slopes a full of octogenarians continuing the sport they love and I’m quite sure that they not only enjoy life more but actually live longer than those who throw the towel in. The risk of serious injury or death is more than offset by the quality of life.
I guess my uncalled for advice is to do exactly as you want to and not be influenced by others.

Regarding my original post, I’m not sure if I was exactly clear in what I was trying to say. To put it in a nutshell, I no longer feel very much in touch with many of the other participants at bike shows. My interests are much more historic and technical. I would rather see a well cared for BSA Bantam than a 2022 Harley. I would rather see a bike raced by a back yarder who scrimpt and saved for every improvement to do passably well in it’s day than today’s latest rocket ship.
Showing off a modern bike that was designed by marketing experts to unashamedly cash in on classic designs from bikes fifty or possibly closer to one hundred years old, creating a virtual parody of the original bike and then believing that somehow it is a unique artwork is an anathema to me.
Building a ‘show-bike’ by simply adding on more and more ‘off the shelf’ bling, ending up with an unridable caricature of a motorcycle that one would be likely to see in a Batman movie, fails to hold my interest.
Transforming from the average ageing ‘dude’ into a geriatric imitation of a 1% biker by the addition of leather, chains and death’s head badges somehow seems rather pointless.
Anyway, each to their own, I just don’t seem to fit the mould any longer.
regards Alan
Alan, I get it, and I expect most people on this forum do.I live up at Sussex inlet and the closest guy to me with a well fettled Norton lives in Sydney, so in the last 2 yrs we’ve seen each other twice. I had 3 bikes and my little runaround( Enfield 650) was the unfortunate bike I was riding the day of the accident. Why did I buy that bike? Because of the lines , but still just a rendition of another time. The local bike shop mainly services hardly dangerous bikes with, as you put it, a lot of bling and addons. They really don’t do it for me, but the father of the manager rides a 70s Ducati and I can relate to that and the owner( ex road racer from that period). I must admit, in recent yrs I bought a modern Ducati as I wondered what they would be like, I love that bike ,but it is not as comfy as a Norton. Lastly I have a 73 Norton, bit of a bitsa, but just a beautiful thing to behold. The lines and idiosyncrasies of our bikes are special ( I’m a bit biased). When I can I do ride with a Harley guy who has 3 Harley’s pre 1980, they are not blinged up and tony ain’t either, he’s the real deal. There is a local bike club and the one time I went ,there was a green fastback , unrestored and looking very lonely,but the owner was a stickler for originality, so ,fair enough. Over the last yr I’ve been working on doing a bit of an upgrade on my Norton with parts I collected during covid, and when I walk into the garage I can’t help but admire that machine. I think that for the NOC guys that go to their regular meetings and road rides, life would be very different , with like minded people who are proud of their machines and can swop technical assistance, I can’t help but wonder if you( like me) are just so isolated from other brit bikers that you feel surrounded by this modern trend of the riders you describe? My feeling on the hwy is most genuine guys will wave, but a blinged up hardly guy doesn’t even see you, ( I have been known to give them the bird😏) Incidently my brother ( rip)married a Bombala girl and both my parents went up in smoke at the cremation unit just outside that town. Finally I am not a font of knowledge with my Norton, but I am still willing to learn and try to do work myself, which is the exact opposite of what society is teaching younger generations. I do hope you come to an understanding in yourself,that just because it’s hard to accept the way part of the modern bike scene has gone, there is still a group of like minded people, such as yourself, and mate I don’t think you were designed to fit the modern mould, as we came from a different time. My comments are well intentioned if wide of your mark. Kind Regaurds Leigh
 
New bikes and definitely new cars have been engineered so the average guy (excuse me person) cannot repair them! Throw-a-way transmissions Special tools, hard to reach without a lift, one time use bolts! The list goes on. My Ram diesel has the fuel filter above the rear differential, you have to put on a lift or get a bath of fuel!
 
I work on my old bikes and my modern bikes I have no choice as I am not rich and can't afford the labor cost, but at least I know the work has been done, but I like to tinker and what best way to get to know your bike, when I was young and brought my new Norton at 17 I didn't have a clue about working on it till I built it into a Featherbed frame it was my first bike build, I learned from my mistakes but after 46 years I still own it and know every nut and bolt on it, I must have done something right as it's still going but I enjoy doing upgrades on it over that time, it's been a very reliable bike and has served me good was an everyday rider till 2013 after upgrading the new Thruxton but I still ride the Norton regularly, but I am always doing something on the bikes as in a way it keeps me young, using my hands and brain, being retired for 9 years now it's good to be keeping active and doing something as well having a workshop that is set up to make life a lot easier for me, a lift table was one of the best things I brought as now it gets harder to get up when working on ground level.
Even when I have nothing planned or doing I always find something to do to keep me busy and if not I take the bike out unless traveling on the bikes I am not out every day on the bikes to busy doing other things or the budget is tight and life just gets in the way, but I do get out a few times a week on the bikes, stops me going insane lol.

Ashley
 
I am chasing 80 now but still ride out with the lads , and repair bikes ,cars etc , don't like to think what would happen if i crash now. Nah , don't think about it !. At least I am now trusted to work on exotic one of a kind bikes that virtually no one has heard of. Ranger 750, Atlas scrambler, Nomad, G15CSR, Unified twin Norton, Pluto OIF Matchless , Ducati works Desmo , Rudge Ulster etc. Keeps the mind young . Sold my 150 mph Honda , time to grow up !, slow down a tad, maybe.
 
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I have a friend in the next town who is a godbotherer. His mates are into saving people from sex, drugs and rock and roll. He loves Harleys. When I asked him about them, he told me the reason he likes them is they are completely re-buildable. These days, in Australia if a car has not got chrome-plated bumper bars, you cannot work on it.
What our kids do not know is they have been cheated out of doing the best things in life. If you buy a modern 200 BHP road bike, what can you do with it, other than look lovely.
I was using computers as far back as 1972, and I can programme extremely well. One thing i never do is play computer games. My younger son had an F1 car racing game. He told me it is just like the real thing - but would he know ?
I think he would get a great big shock if he ever got onto a race circuit, with anything faster than a tricycle.
My eldest son had a ZXR750 Kawasaki. I never discussed road racing with him. When he was young he watched me have a very big crash during a race, so he was always very careful.
 
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my Commando, even although it was demonstrably overshadowed by the cacophony of bling, chrome, gold plate and custom mural paint jobs on other bikes, actually attracted more attention than any other bike there.

I've noticed that as well. Parked next to a flock of Harleys "customized" with off-the-shelf Screaming Eagle parts and my old Commando will get more attention than the nicely painted HDs. I've never decoded the attraction of ape hanger bars and forward controls but at least they're out riding.
 
my Commando, even although it was demonstrably overshadowed by the cacophony of bling, chrome, gold plate and custom mural paint jobs on other bikes, actually attracted more attention than any other bike there.

I've noticed that as well. Parked next to a flock of Harleys "customized" with off-the-shelf Screaming Eagle parts and my old Commando will get more attention than the nicely painted HDs. I've never decoded the attraction of ape hanger bars and forward controls but at least they're out riding.
"Attraction of apes & forward controls"

They are trying to be a part of tge 1% crowd from 50+ years ago...
Stand out visually

 
"Attraction of apes & forward controls"

They are trying to be a part of tge 1% crowd from 50+ years ago...
Stand out visually


The one thing I've never suffered with is 1% biker syndrome:)....well that what I call it...lol
 
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