Fuel Injection
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Not a retrofit, but there is some hope of using something modern on a 60 year old design http://www.sae.org/mags/AEI/6906
Jean
Jean
Rawden said:
It wasn't the Wal Phillips was it ?
http://victorylibrary.com/brit/WP-c.htm
Did anyone ever get one of those working properly ? :?
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Fuel injection on a classic Norton?
Blasphemy I say!
Next thing you know, you'll be replacing the points with electronic ignition and the good old rectifier/zener setup with a solid state voltage regulator!
The end of civilization is near...
Blasphemy I say!
Next thing you know, you'll be replacing the points with electronic ignition and the good old rectifier/zener setup with a solid state voltage regulator!
The end of civilization is near...
comnoz said:
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/sit ... 812ECUEVME
Jim, this one looks cheaper than a Megasquirt and almost tailored for a Norton, happy hacking :wink:
Jean
comnoz said:
How far away, time wise?
What is it based on?
The Stage so far
Have modded some Norton Commando inlet manifolds that had prevously nitrous fitted,,,and then found some narrow pencil injectors to "spray the back of the valve head", which seems like a good place to start, they fit like they were made for each other and then use the Amals, sans needles as Throttle Bodies ect
The idea is we can limp 'n slip back home on the carb when the leccy stuff gives up the ghost (technical term)
Also do not want to advertise it, as get too many ruddy questions already...
Last but not least how much are they likely to cost Jim ?
Thank you
Rawden
Can't understand why anyone would want to.
Yes, I understand the advantages of EFI.
But I understand how carbs work, can work on and repair them, and know that they (generally) don't fail catastrophically - they deteriorate over time if not maintained, but it's a slow process. A carb isn't going to up and strand you the way a failed black box will (not that that happens often - now, read my points vs EI thread (NONEXISTENT, it's a JOKE)).
And then there are Keihin FCRs....I'll shut up before someone thinks I have a financial interest in selling these - I don't - but they are just such awesome carbs!!!
Yes, I understand the advantages of EFI.
But I understand how carbs work, can work on and repair them, and know that they (generally) don't fail catastrophically - they deteriorate over time if not maintained, but it's a slow process. A carb isn't going to up and strand you the way a failed black box will (not that that happens often - now, read my points vs EI thread (NONEXISTENT, it's a JOKE)).
And then there are Keihin FCRs....I'll shut up before someone thinks I have a financial interest in selling these - I don't - but they are just such awesome carbs!!!
BrianK said:
All new vehicles seem to be made with EFI as standard.
Most owners do not convert back to carb's
EFI more MPG less Emissions more power, and better throttle response which makes is feel faster..
It is like leccy windows and leccy start, once sampled as an option it is then the de facto std, and is main stream as folks like the benifits.
might be able to find a newer Triumph Bonney, scrambler etc in a salvage yard and get the injectors/throttle bodies and electrics... the injector/throttle bodies even look like carbs... A little fabing to fit it, but a viable option...
I agree with the WHY comment though... I preffer the ability to get it home under it's own power or having to pull the carb bowl on the side of the rode to clean out some trash rather than have to get someone to bring a trailer... This is why I am pulling the Boyer stuff and going back with points... I can fix it and be back riding while others are still waiting on a ride...
I agree with the WHY comment though... I preffer the ability to get it home under it's own power or having to pull the carb bowl on the side of the rode to clean out some trash rather than have to get someone to bring a trailer... This is why I am pulling the Boyer stuff and going back with points... I can fix it and be back riding while others are still waiting on a ride...
Sawsall said:
Have left the Amals in place to use as throttle bodies, so suppose they could be used still as carbs, in an emergency, so perhaps just think of the injector mounted in the inlet manifold as an addition to the fueling system, that will inject as needed or required.
To keep a head on the project, and to use the firms facilities have looked at the commercial implications.
A Green Grant , to cover dev costs and a bolt on diy kit for about £1000, would give a salable product, which sounds very expensive to most enthusiasts, so needs some added value, like GPS or imobilliser to justify that sort of price as you would not sell hundreds.
Or bundle it with another product like a modern retro-looking set of instruments put a Norton name on it and sell it for a fortune.
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